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<p>[QUOTE="ycon, post: 2993654, member: 91771"]I too am somewhat appalled by the censorship here. The context for ancient erotic art works is very different from our own and it seems suspect to me to evaluate them as though they were pornography.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm sorry, but this logic is absurd. Your definition of erotiscm is clearly predicated on some kind of assessment of what you find arousing (not appropriate for this board) and completely unrelated to the facts of the work in question. Whether or not you are "open minded" has nothing to do with the piece itself, and the fact that you "don't like it" doesn't make it not erotic. Erotiscm isn't simply in the eyes of the beholder--as you seem to think--but in this case an actual description of the content of the work.</p><p><br /></p><p>Again, placing your modern (and imho pretty offensive value judgement) on this work is incompatible with any kind of real study of the past.</p><p><br /></p><p>I've linked to two of the two most interesting and famous pieces of ancient homoerotic art (for the moderators-- I hope that these links are acceptable; these articles would be sfw in nearly any context)</p><p><br /></p><p><span style="color: #ff4d4d">edited</span></p><p><br /></p><p>I think it is interesting that the Warren Cup is displayed prominently in the British Museum, where it is contextualized with a wealth of information.</p><p><br /></p><p>On the other hand, if one were to travel Tarquinia (I have), you might find that though the few tombs with erotic artwork are the most studied and historically important, they are inexplicably closed off-- despite being among the relatively small number of tombs that have been renovated for public visits (~20 out of ~100 if memory serves).</p><p><br /></p><p>These show very different approaches to historical erotic work: either silently censor work you anachronistically find offensive, or seek to explain, appreciate, understand, and contextualize. It is very clear to me which is the right approach.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ycon, post: 2993654, member: 91771"]I too am somewhat appalled by the censorship here. The context for ancient erotic art works is very different from our own and it seems suspect to me to evaluate them as though they were pornography. I'm sorry, but this logic is absurd. Your definition of erotiscm is clearly predicated on some kind of assessment of what you find arousing (not appropriate for this board) and completely unrelated to the facts of the work in question. Whether or not you are "open minded" has nothing to do with the piece itself, and the fact that you "don't like it" doesn't make it not erotic. Erotiscm isn't simply in the eyes of the beholder--as you seem to think--but in this case an actual description of the content of the work. Again, placing your modern (and imho pretty offensive value judgement) on this work is incompatible with any kind of real study of the past. I've linked to two of the two most interesting and famous pieces of ancient homoerotic art (for the moderators-- I hope that these links are acceptable; these articles would be sfw in nearly any context) [COLOR=#ff4d4d]edited[/COLOR] I think it is interesting that the Warren Cup is displayed prominently in the British Museum, where it is contextualized with a wealth of information. On the other hand, if one were to travel Tarquinia (I have), you might find that though the few tombs with erotic artwork are the most studied and historically important, they are inexplicably closed off-- despite being among the relatively small number of tombs that have been renovated for public visits (~20 out of ~100 if memory serves). These show very different approaches to historical erotic work: either silently censor work you anachronistically find offensive, or seek to explain, appreciate, understand, and contextualize. It is very clear to me which is the right approach.[/QUOTE]
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