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<p>[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4947582, member: 110504"][USER=80147]@Ancient Aussie[/USER], to get right back into the architecture (insincere apologies ensue), that one's fantastic. Without looking, it's a 'DIVO CLAUDIO,' which, as a guess, would still put it safely in the pre-Tetrarchy phase of the 3rd century. As such (...until someone busts me on the attribution), the anticipation of the Constantinian 'camp gate' issues is the kind of thing that might make someone sit up in their chair.</p><p><br /></p><p>...Right, the 'camp gate' motif goes on to be adapted and /but perpetuated (along the lines of, for one recent instance in this forum, Roman provincials and Pharoahnic and Ptolemaic motifs), far into the medieval period. Going from the 'temple' type of the Carolingians (9th c. onward), to early Capetian France (issues from Orleans --in which the 'gate' part is more pronounced), and other, even more creative adaptations in the French feudal series, from the 11th century.</p><p>Making your example, as a prototype going farther back than I ever knew of, that resonantly cool.</p><p>...Okay, only since people are running with the architectural theme, despite your ostensible protestations, there's this. I just posted it, somewhere, but the similarity to your reverse is pretty pronounced. This is of Hugues Bardoul, count of Dreux c. 1035-1055. ...Inviting speculation that maybe the medieval die engravers were using different, but complementary Roman prototypes. The references always describe it a church facade, but I harbor my doubts --especially since the reverse legend is 'DRVCAS CASTA.'</p><p> [ATTACH=full]1189199[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="+VGO.DVCKS, post: 4947582, member: 110504"][USER=80147]@Ancient Aussie[/USER], to get right back into the architecture (insincere apologies ensue), that one's fantastic. Without looking, it's a 'DIVO CLAUDIO,' which, as a guess, would still put it safely in the pre-Tetrarchy phase of the 3rd century. As such (...until someone busts me on the attribution), the anticipation of the Constantinian 'camp gate' issues is the kind of thing that might make someone sit up in their chair. ...Right, the 'camp gate' motif goes on to be adapted and /but perpetuated (along the lines of, for one recent instance in this forum, Roman provincials and Pharoahnic and Ptolemaic motifs), far into the medieval period. Going from the 'temple' type of the Carolingians (9th c. onward), to early Capetian France (issues from Orleans --in which the 'gate' part is more pronounced), and other, even more creative adaptations in the French feudal series, from the 11th century. Making your example, as a prototype going farther back than I ever knew of, that resonantly cool. ...Okay, only since people are running with the architectural theme, despite your ostensible protestations, there's this. I just posted it, somewhere, but the similarity to your reverse is pretty pronounced. This is of Hugues Bardoul, count of Dreux c. 1035-1055. ...Inviting speculation that maybe the medieval die engravers were using different, but complementary Roman prototypes. The references always describe it a church facade, but I harbor my doubts --especially since the reverse legend is 'DRVCAS CASTA.' [ATTACH=full]1189199[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
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