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<p>[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 3879040, member: 77814"]wow, and the thread didn't get locked after the first few pages. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie26" alt=":bookworm:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>"flippers" .. what are flippers? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie27" alt=":bored:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>(a) people that buy US MINT coins then sell them at high prices, <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie47" alt=":greedy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>(b) people that CRH looking for those million dollars coins looking to flip them at high prices.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie67" alt=":nailbiting:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>(c) people that buy coins and accidentally see a price spike and thus flip them ? <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie7" alt=":p" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>(d) anyone that buys a coin, then expects to sell it for more at some time in the future. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie77" alt=":pompous:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p>(d) all of the above <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie100" alt=":wideyed:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>A lot of gray area there. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie49" alt=":grumpy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> and everyone's definition will fit their own purposes.</p><p><br /></p><p>Yes, there are businesses out there buying coins, breaking the "one household rule" .. but they're a "business not a household, right? .. and then reselling them. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie27" alt=":bored:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>That reminds me of the Congrats ASE sets. Each year I would buy a handful on the thought I would give them away. I never did. Then came the fall of 2017 when the 2017 price spiked. Crazily spiked to $2k each, and the other years spiked up too. It was crazy. I sold <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie59" alt=":joyful:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />, I flipped them because it was Insanity Demand. I recall I sold each of them for $2k.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie57" alt=":jawdrop:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I see on eBay I can buy them back, slabbed for $60-$160. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie52" alt=":hilarious:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>And Last Year I subscribed to the Apollo <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie17" alt=":astronaut:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> prints, max 3 prints. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie8" alt=":D" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I saw the first print sell on eBay for a crazy amount like $70 each (paid $20 each). So I sold them.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie14" alt=":angelic:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Then I got the 2nd set and sold those. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie18" alt=":bag:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I have the 3rd set still unopened on my desk, but I was planning on selling those too.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie20" alt=":banghead:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>At the price of gold/silver I've taken buying bullion coins off my list for now. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie19" alt=":banhappy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> As I've been selling silver when it peaked above $16 then again above $18.</p><p><br /></p><p>I had a Universal Coin call me the other week offering me the 1986-2019 MS69 uncirc set for a mere $2,100 ( that's $66+ each ?). They were trying to tell me it was a superb deal <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie45" alt=":eggface:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />.. umm .. no. I don't buy slabbed (nonProof) modern bullion. And I told him I was selling, not buying at the high prices. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie42" alt=":doctor:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I guess I was right as now silver/gold has gone down, so I flipped my PMs. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie69" alt=":oldman:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>But, flipping any coin exists for Coin Collectors (aka Insanity Demand <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie87" alt=":sorry:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />) as we've all stated in other threads coins is not an investment (at most levels). <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie83" alt=":singing:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>But I've overpaid on stuff too because I want it "now" not "later"<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie50" alt=":happy:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> After people over pay a few times, then a few years pass (or days) and the "luster" (pun intended) <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie98" alt=":wacky:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> of the coin fades they start second guessing themselves.<img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie10" alt=":oops:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Just like the people that check their pocket change, are told it's damage but still send it off to PCGS and claimed they were wrong and ripped off. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie79" alt=":rage:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> It's all a learning experience, and evolution of knowledge to be a careful "coin connoisseur", which ironically has the word "con" in it. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie81" alt=":shifty:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Clawcoins, post: 3879040, member: 77814"]wow, and the thread didn't get locked after the first few pages. :bookworm: "flippers" .. what are flippers? :bored: (a) people that buy US MINT coins then sell them at high prices, :greedy: (b) people that CRH looking for those million dollars coins looking to flip them at high prices.:nailbiting: (c) people that buy coins and accidentally see a price spike and thus flip them ? :p (d) anyone that buys a coin, then expects to sell it for more at some time in the future. :pompous: (d) all of the above :wideyed: A lot of gray area there. :grumpy: and everyone's definition will fit their own purposes. Yes, there are businesses out there buying coins, breaking the "one household rule" .. but they're a "business not a household, right? .. and then reselling them. :bored: That reminds me of the Congrats ASE sets. Each year I would buy a handful on the thought I would give them away. I never did. Then came the fall of 2017 when the 2017 price spiked. Crazily spiked to $2k each, and the other years spiked up too. It was crazy. I sold :joyful:, I flipped them because it was Insanity Demand. I recall I sold each of them for $2k.:jawdrop: I see on eBay I can buy them back, slabbed for $60-$160. :hilarious: And Last Year I subscribed to the Apollo :astronaut: prints, max 3 prints. :D I saw the first print sell on eBay for a crazy amount like $70 each (paid $20 each). So I sold them.:angelic: Then I got the 2nd set and sold those. :bag: I have the 3rd set still unopened on my desk, but I was planning on selling those too.:banghead: At the price of gold/silver I've taken buying bullion coins off my list for now. :banhappy: As I've been selling silver when it peaked above $16 then again above $18. I had a Universal Coin call me the other week offering me the 1986-2019 MS69 uncirc set for a mere $2,100 ( that's $66+ each ?). They were trying to tell me it was a superb deal :eggface:.. umm .. no. I don't buy slabbed (nonProof) modern bullion. And I told him I was selling, not buying at the high prices. :doctor: I guess I was right as now silver/gold has gone down, so I flipped my PMs. :oldman: But, flipping any coin exists for Coin Collectors (aka Insanity Demand :sorry:) as we've all stated in other threads coins is not an investment (at most levels). :singing: But I've overpaid on stuff too because I want it "now" not "later":happy: After people over pay a few times, then a few years pass (or days) and the "luster" (pun intended) :wacky: of the coin fades they start second guessing themselves.:oops: Just like the people that check their pocket change, are told it's damage but still send it off to PCGS and claimed they were wrong and ripped off. :rage: It's all a learning experience, and evolution of knowledge to be a careful "coin connoisseur", which ironically has the word "con" in it. :shifty:[/QUOTE]
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