English Shilling collectors?

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  1. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    Two shillings from Good King James:

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    Britain James I (1603-1625) shilling
    Silver, 30 mm, 5.69 gm
    Struck London Tower Mint 1604-1605

    Obverse:
    Crowned head facing right
    IACOBVS D G ANG SCO FRA ET HIB REX
    (James by the Grace of God, England, Scotland, France, and Ireland, King)
    XII to left of head

    Reverse:
    Shields of England, Scotland, France, and Ireland, lis mint mark
    EXVRGAT DEVS DISSIPENTVR INIMICI
    (Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered)

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    Britain James I (1603-1625) shilling Minted for Ireland
    Silver, 26 mm, 4.46 gm
    Struck London Tower Mint 1606-1607

    Obverse:
    Crowned head facing right
    IACOBVS D G MAG BRIT FRA ET HIB REX
    (James by the Grace of God, Great Britain, France, and Ireland King)

    Reverse:
    Crowned harp
    HENRICVS ROSA REGNA IACOBVS
    (Henry the Roses, James the Kingdoms)
    Rose mint mark

    The motto means that Henry VII united the Roses (the Houses of York and Lancaster) and James united the Kingdoms (England and Scotland)

    :)
     
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  3. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Ladies night.
    Anne 1707 3rd bust shilling struck from London dies.
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    Anne 1709E* shilling struck from local dies made at Edinburgh
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    Elizabeth I shilling with mm. Crescent, the reverse over Scallop dating this to 1587-9. Double struck on the reverse, but Crescent is quite a scarce mark for silver.
    upload_2022-11-9_20-4-57.jpeg

    Elizabeth II 1958 proof shilling with Scottish reverse
    upload_2022-11-9_20-6-36.jpeg

    Victoria 1858 young head shilling
    upload_2022-11-9_20-7-25.jpeg
     
  4. chlorinated

    chlorinated Well-Known Member

    Beautiful coins, ty for sharing!
     
  5. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    OK, Rob, I like the 1958 (S) shilling!!!!
     
  6. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    That was one of the two as discussed. Have to wait for the other one as there is a lot I haven't covered yet.
     
  7. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    That is a wonderful goal! I've taken a good long break from these boards and I'm just now coming back, so I've missed all the posts of this thread... but this is something that I did a few years ago. I completed the set, and then sold it. I kinda regret that, because I really liked those coins.

    One of my favorites of my collection was Lizzy. Here she is (two different pics of the reverse).

    I can post more later if you want me to.

    JPW586 obverse.JPG JPW586 reverse.JPG
    JPW586 reverse (2).jpg
     
  8. chlorinated

    chlorinated Well-Known Member

    Post them all please!
     
  9. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    A few more.

    A run of the mill 1653 Commonwealth shilling
    upload_2022-11-12_23-30-45.jpeg

    A 1684 4th bust shilling. Less than common.
    upload_2022-11-12_23-31-51.jpeg

    1549 shilling with mm. Swan, struck in 6 oz silver.
    upload_2022-11-12_23-34-24.jpeg
     
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  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Here is the earliest shilling I have, which is from Edward VI.

    Edward VI Shilling All.jpg
     
  11. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    A few more. A pair of James I 5th bust shillings
    mm.Crown, ex-Lockett
    upload_2022-11-20_1-48-13.jpeg

    mm. Mullet (obv over Bell)
    upload_2022-11-20_1-49-43.jpeg

    A pair of Charles I.
    Sharp E2-2 with mm. Tun , ex Brooker 507
    upload_2022-11-20_1-51-15.jpeg

    An oddball Sharp G2-2 with mm. R and the mark of value inverted.
    upload_2022-11-20_1-52-51.jpeg
     
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  12. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Not your average 1966E shilling:
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  13. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    AFBF9420-8022-42C6-A5B0-FE7FFDEA050B.jpeg And here is a nice and scarce to rare coin:
     
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  14. Mister T

    Mister T Active Member

    Nice. What's the slab number?
     
  15. 7Jags

    7Jags Well-Known Member

    Ah, will check on that tomorrow, got that one locked away...LOL
     
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  16. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    What is 6 oz silver? That's ~186.6 grams which is very heavy for an English shilling of Edward VI.
     
  17. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Here's a cool one I don't see posted often. These are called "gun money" shillings, and were made from melted cannons, bells, and other items. One of the very few coins to include the date of striking as well (these were intended to be redeemed after the war for actual silver money, with interest, hence the date).

    JPW645 obverse.jpg JPW645 reverse.jpg
     
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  18. Gallienus

    Gallienus coinsandhistory.com

    You are Rich!

    At 10% annual interest & compounded monthly & starting at 12 cents of value, your coin is currently worth approx. 27 & 1/2 Trillion dollars! I'd suggest having it certified and redeeming it w/ the British Gov't before the Civil War starts up again...

    Congratulations.

    I added together four 83 yr periods as most online interest calculators don't go for the necessary 333 years.
     
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2022
  19. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I would to find a nice piece of gun money, but the one time I saw a couple, the auction minimum seemed high. The pieces didn’t sell.
     
  20. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    It doesn't refer to the physical weight, rather the fineness of the silver - 12oz would be pure.

    This article in the BNJ explains the various debased issues of the period.
    https://www.britnumsoc.org/publications/Digital BNJ/pdfs/1916_BNJ_12_7.pdf
     
  21. robp

    robp Well-Known Member

    Gunmoney shillings came in two sizes. The earlier (large) pieces being superseded by the later smaller type in April 1690.

    A large shilling, struck three months before the changeover
    upload_2022-12-5_23-3-50.jpeg

    And a small module shilling from 5 months later
    upload_2022-12-5_23-7-16.jpeg

    And for comparison, a shilling struck while James was still king at home. Apologies for the quality - it's one I sold years ago, but the only image to hand
    upload_2022-12-5_23-21-0.jpeg
     
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