English Hammered Coins

I thought I would get a thread started to see if anyone else cared to join in a discussion! I am an avid collector and researcher of hammered coins minted from the reign of Henry II to Edward III.

 

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While this is my area of historical expertise, I've already posted all the coins I have from 12-13th c. England! I hope to add more pieces in the future though...

 

Very nice Hammered, what grading company is this coin in???

 

I have a Tealby penny of Henry II but for some reason I forgot to image it. Will have to shoot a pic next time it comes home from the safe box.

For now, my only Plantagenet coin is this one:



A mixed up flip-over double struck short cross penny, probably of King John, but very difficult to identify. In general, short cross pennies are tricky to identify, as the coins of Henry II, Richard I, John, and Henry III are all inscribed in the name of 'Henry'. There are features that can tell them apart, such as the number of pearls on the crown, or the size and direction of certain letters in the legend. Given the double strike here the legend is hard to read. The moneyer is probably Raul or Rauf of London, unhelpful to identification because this moneyer struck for multiple monarchs.

Double struck coins of this era are not uncommon, but flip-over double strikes are fairly unusual, especially with a quite visible portrait on both sides.

 

That is quite different Nap! I like it

 

haven't seen one quite like that before nap.

 

Thanks. It's actually in a replica slab. I create the labels and buy the slabs from a foreign vendor. They are basically NGC style slabs. I don't do it in order to fool anyone into thinking they are graded but rather a good way for me to hold the coins.

 

Tealby coins are quite rare and are a welcome addition to any collection. They are all of very poor quality and are what forced Henry II to generate the voided short cross pennies.

 

Exactly! You are spot on saying double struck or "ghosted" coins of this period are quite common. Your coin is a pretty unique example though. I have yet to see an example like this where it is double struck on both obverse and reverse with the opposite die.

I will try to research further but as you said without much legible letters and complete bust it may be hard to pinpoint.

Really cool coin!

 

So where do you find the NGC style slab? I have been thinking about putting my collection of modern coins in slab holders (some professionally graded), and I like that the 'prongs' of NGC slabs allow you to see some of the edge.

 

That is a nice coin - and I didn't know you could buy the slabs 'raw'.

 

Very nice

 

Nice looking coins. I have a few I'll post tomorrow.

 

Yea I like the look of the NGC slabs and with the varying dimension of hammered coins you need that "claw" type of holder to give some flexibility because of the variability in dimensions. I will post a link to show you where I get mine from. eBay has a few sellers but they r a rip off and you can't buy direct from China much cheaper. I create the labels myself.

 

Thanks!

 

Here is where to get your slabs from. You must specify the sizes you want in your order. I have ordered numerous times from them and never have had a problem. Just takes about 10 days to arrive though.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/HIGH...1923232843.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.52.oCABPW

 

Here is one that just arrived yesterday. Edward III groat. Not a particularly rare coin per se, but the quality of the strike and the boldness of the strike without wear or clipping is quite rare.

 

That coin is phat. So big and high grade!

 

Thanks. Yea it is large but the quality is what you really like to look for in these groats. Many are very warn on the high points which is almost always the bust. And clipping was a real problem so a full flan is also a nice feature

 

All I have is an undated Tudor Shilling that I wish had more bust.