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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;conderluva, post: 848468, member: 21717&quot;]Both are Conder tokens</p><p><br /></p><p>The 835 End of Pain obv is the same as the 834 obv.&nbsp; That obv represents an obvious contempt for T.Paine, his ideas and those that shared them.&nbsp; The 834 reverse is similar to that of the 838 white metal example pictured...The Wrongs of Man... Jany 21, 1793&nbsp; This &quot;parodies Paine&#039;s Rights of Man with The Wrongs of Man, and the date refers to the execution of Louis XVI, and the declaration of the French Republic.&quot;&nbsp; [Quote from R.C.Bell&#039;s Political and Commemorative Pieces Simulating Trade Tokens 1770-1802]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Also according to Bell (and probably R.T. Samuel) the center of the 835&#039;s reverse represents the world on fire, and feeding the flames (or arising out of the flames) are conflicting ideas expressed by Edmund Burke and Thomas Paine.&nbsp; Burke was an opponent of the Fr. Rev.&nbsp; He published a pamphlet, &quot;Reflections on the French Revolution&quot; in 1790 to which Paine responded with the &quot;Rights of Man&quot; in 1791.&nbsp; Burke died in 1797.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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