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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1126271, member: 19463"]A theory of the meaning of MP really needs to include an explanation of MS as well since that mark appears as well. Coins also exist with P or S (no M) and with nothing in exergue. Coins of Gallienus of the period also exist with MT and plain T. All this adds up to the somewhat certain reading that the P, S and T is the Western Empire standard workshop ordinals Primus, Secundus and Tertius. That leaves the M: Since the conventional attribution of the coins is to Mediolanum (Milan) we can take the city initial as the M. However, if someone were to come up with another city we could equally well take the M to mean Moneta (or mint) which is known in the Roman series elsewhere. Since nowhere near all coins attributed to Mediolanum have a mint mark, we might even be open to separating the coins into more than one mint group. </p><p> </p><p>Many of us who are 'into' Roman coins are anxious to see what will come with the reissue of a new edition updating RIC. Roman Imperial Coinage has been the standard reference for so long that it is extremely outdated in many periods and Volume V (this one) is among the worst. I know there are many better minds than mine working on this project and I hope to live long enough to see their opinions put to print. For now, we may be as well researching online as buying the old books.</p><p><a href="http://mk.shahrazad.net/gallienus/index2.php?order=Coins.ReverseLegend%2C+Coins.ObverseLegend%2C+Coins.Reign%2C+Coins.RICNumber%2C+Coins.GoblNumber%2C+Coins.Number&size=Large&fontsize=-1&obvleg=&exact2=yes&revleg=&exact=no&emperor2=Salonina&ricnumber=&goblnumber=&province=&city=&ricmint=Mediolanum&goblmint=All&searmint=All&denomination=All&reign=All" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://mk.shahrazad.net/gallienus/index2.php?order=Coins.ReverseLegend%2C+Coins.ObverseLegend%2C+Coins.Reign%2C+Coins.RICNumber%2C+Coins.GoblNumber%2C+Coins.Number&size=Large&fontsize=-1&obvleg=&exact2=yes&revleg=&exact=no&emperor2=Salonina&ricnumber=&goblnumber=&province=&city=&ricmint=Mediolanum&goblmint=All&searmint=All&denomination=All&reign=All" rel="nofollow">http://mk.shahrazad.net/gallienus/index2.php?order=Coins.ReverseLegend%2C+Coins.ObverseLegend%2C+Coins.Reign%2C+Coins.RICNumber%2C+Coins.GoblNumber%2C+Coins.Number&size=Large&fontsize=-1&obvleg=&exact2=yes&revleg=&exact=no&emperor2=Salonina&ricnumber=&goblnumber=&province=&city=&ricmint=Mediolanum&goblmint=All&searmint=All&denomination=All&reign=All</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1126271, member: 19463"]A theory of the meaning of MP really needs to include an explanation of MS as well since that mark appears as well. Coins also exist with P or S (no M) and with nothing in exergue. Coins of Gallienus of the period also exist with MT and plain T. All this adds up to the somewhat certain reading that the P, S and T is the Western Empire standard workshop ordinals Primus, Secundus and Tertius. That leaves the M: Since the conventional attribution of the coins is to Mediolanum (Milan) we can take the city initial as the M. However, if someone were to come up with another city we could equally well take the M to mean Moneta (or mint) which is known in the Roman series elsewhere. Since nowhere near all coins attributed to Mediolanum have a mint mark, we might even be open to separating the coins into more than one mint group. Many of us who are 'into' Roman coins are anxious to see what will come with the reissue of a new edition updating RIC. Roman Imperial Coinage has been the standard reference for so long that it is extremely outdated in many periods and Volume V (this one) is among the worst. I know there are many better minds than mine working on this project and I hope to live long enough to see their opinions put to print. For now, we may be as well researching online as buying the old books. [URL="http://mk.shahrazad.net/gallienus/index2.php?order=Coins.ReverseLegend%2C+Coins.ObverseLegend%2C+Coins.Reign%2C+Coins.RICNumber%2C+Coins.GoblNumber%2C+Coins.Number&size=Large&fontsize=-1&obvleg=&exact2=yes&revleg=&exact=no&emperor2=Salonina&ricnumber=&goblnumber=&province=&city=&ricmint=Mediolanum&goblmint=All&searmint=All&denomination=All&reign=All"]http://mk.shahrazad.net/gallienus/index2.php?order=Coins.ReverseLegend%2C+Coins.ObverseLegend%2C+Coins.Reign%2C+Coins.RICNumber%2C+Coins.GoblNumber%2C+Coins.Number&size=Large&fontsize=-1&obvleg=&exact2=yes&revleg=&exact=no&emperor2=Salonina&ricnumber=&goblnumber=&province=&city=&ricmint=Mediolanum&goblmint=All&searmint=All&denomination=All&reign=All[/URL][/QUOTE]
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