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<p>[QUOTE="Tejas, post: 4500065, member: 84905"]I have informed the German Münzenverband, i.e. the association of coin dealers in Germany about the Emporium fakes. They have asked Emporium for a statement. This statement was forwarded to me. It basically said, "the coins are difficult to identify, but they are all genuine, there is nothing to worry about". This statement satisfied the Münzenverband. Their lawyer told me that the case is closed now.</p><p><br /></p><p>I took the opportunity to inform the Münzenverband of two other practices of Emporium Hamburg: (1) they misuse literature references and (2) they systematically assign basically unidentifiable coins to rare emperors like Avitus.</p><p><br /></p><p>to the first point: For example, they systematically use an article by Friedrich Stefan (1925) to legitimize fakes like these. </p><p><br /></p><p>Stefan 5</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2427150" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2427150" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2427150</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Stefan IX</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747981" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747981" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747981</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Stefan 7</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?similar=3747981" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?similar=3747981" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?similar=3747981</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Stefan 1</p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?similar=3747981" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?similar=3747981" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?similar=3747981</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>If you look up the reference non of the coins will be found, but still, they can even point to individual illustrations in Stefan's article. Stefan (1925) does not discuss, let alone show these coins. In fact, the Gepids never produced such coins. The literature references are bogus. They are intended to give credence to modern fantasy fakes.</p><p><br /></p><p>to the second point: I argued that coins like the ones below cannot seriously be attributed to Avitus</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896884" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896884" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896884</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6473068" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6473068" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6473068</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4902799" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4902799" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4902799</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5366600" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5366600" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5366600</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747932" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747932" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747932</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4540645" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4540645" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4540645</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1950222" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1950222" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1950222</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2735374" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2735374" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2735374</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3079545" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3079545" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3079545</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467303" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467303" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467303</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467304" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467304" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467304</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1143692" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1143692" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1143692</a></p><p><br /></p><p>and coins like this are probably even fake Avitus and Eugenius nummi</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467305" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467305" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467305</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896873" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896873" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896873</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896874" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896874" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896874</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747922" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747922" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747922</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6473057" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6473057" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6473057</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4540635" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4540635" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4540635</a></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3079533" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3079533" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3079533</a></p><p><br /></p><p>I'm curious if the Münzverband will pursue this or not, but I am not particularly optimistic about this.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Tejas, post: 4500065, member: 84905"]I have informed the German Münzenverband, i.e. the association of coin dealers in Germany about the Emporium fakes. They have asked Emporium for a statement. This statement was forwarded to me. It basically said, "the coins are difficult to identify, but they are all genuine, there is nothing to worry about". This statement satisfied the Münzenverband. Their lawyer told me that the case is closed now. I took the opportunity to inform the Münzenverband of two other practices of Emporium Hamburg: (1) they misuse literature references and (2) they systematically assign basically unidentifiable coins to rare emperors like Avitus. to the first point: For example, they systematically use an article by Friedrich Stefan (1925) to legitimize fakes like these. Stefan 5 [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2427150[/URL] Stefan IX [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747981[/URL] Stefan 7 [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?similar=3747981[/URL] Stefan 1 [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?similar=3747981[/URL] If you look up the reference non of the coins will be found, but still, they can even point to individual illustrations in Stefan's article. Stefan (1925) does not discuss, let alone show these coins. In fact, the Gepids never produced such coins. The literature references are bogus. They are intended to give credence to modern fantasy fakes. to the second point: I argued that coins like the ones below cannot seriously be attributed to Avitus [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896884[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6473068[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4902799[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5366600[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747932[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4540645[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1950222[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2735374[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3079545[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467303[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467304[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1143692[/URL] and coins like this are probably even fake Avitus and Eugenius nummi [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3467305[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896873[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5896874[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3747922[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6473057[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4540635[/URL] [URL]https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3079533[/URL] I'm curious if the Münzverband will pursue this or not, but I am not particularly optimistic about this.[/QUOTE]
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