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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;dougsmit, post: 2419174, member: 19463&quot;]Recently, I believe it was for Steve&#039;s benefit, we had a discussion of the difference between Imperial and Provincial coins.&nbsp; I think this one is in a gray area since the date places it before Augustus was Augustus and &#039;founded&#039; the Empire.&nbsp; I won&#039;t call him Octavian because I understand he hated that name and I won&#039;t call him Caesar which he would have liked since that would be confusing so I&#039;m perfectly fine with using Augustus.&nbsp; As I see it, Egypt belonged to Cleopatra.&nbsp; &#039;Rome&#039; did not defeat Cleopatra; Augustus did.&nbsp; Egypt became the private property of the Emperor with completely different laws from those governing other &#039;Provinces&#039; which, technically, it was not.&nbsp; Perhaps this coin does belong in Emmett as #1 but it seems to me at the same time as being the last coin of the Ptolemaic series which it resembles closely.&nbsp; Like coins of Cleopatra, it was made for use in her realm which by that time was no longer hers but Augustus&#039;.&nbsp; Collectors and high school history teachers tend to try to force things in neat little boxes that allow easy testing for what Virginians call &#039;Standards of Learning&#039; (other places have different names for equally worthless measures of incompetency in understanding).&nbsp; I suppose that is about equivalent to collectors who define &quot;ID&quot; as knowing the catalog number.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>What I like about TIF:&nbsp; This coin joined her collection previously including EF tetradrachms of fine style.&nbsp; She understands the &#039;value&#039; of both.&nbsp; Congratulation on attaining a goal but please spare us the photo of this coin reflected in a quicksand bog. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie15" alt=":arghh:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Trivia: What is the first Emmett listed coin that fits the pattern of AR/billon tetradrachm and a series of copper drachms and fractions of the type we find throughout most of the coins shown in that reference?&nbsp;&nbsp; How did we get from an 80 drachmai &#039;diobol&#039; to a diobol requiring a half dozen to be one drachma?[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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