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<p>[QUOTE="Rich Beale, post: 4252076, member: 77960"][USER=110740]@oldfinecollector[/USER] I'm sorry that you have decided to make this personal. This kind of un-called for vitriol from uninformed and prejudiced people is precisely the reason why I normally avoid participation in such discussions. For the record, I drive a <u>17 year old Vauxhall Vectra</u>. HK52 JXP. Look it up. It's failed its MOT 3 times and I just replaced the clutch and rear suspension. Ask someone who knows me the last time I bought myself new clothes, or indeed anything nice for that matter. If you've found that someone who knows me ask them how I spend every minute of my day when I'm not at work.</p><p><br /></p><p>You say I "don't deserve to be a professional guy". You don't have the right to make these statements and even if you did, you'd be polite not to.</p><p><br /></p><p>If we auction 20,000 lots per year, and maybe 5(?) at most have a problem serious enough to warrant return, I'd say that's a pretty solid endorsement of the "control" you say we don't exercise. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but no auction house is perfect. Not even Elsen, who you hold up as an exemplar. Why don't we look at the example of this heavily and obviously smoothed and tooled coin from their last auction that was described as tooled when it was sold by The New York Sale in 2004, but not described as such when auctioned by Elsen in December.</p><p><a href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot=399&p=lot&sid=3567" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot=399&p=lot&sid=3567" rel="nofollow">https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot=399&p=lot&sid=3567</a></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Yes you take care of yourself too. I probably WILL have a very bad time. I have 10 employees, some with families, and a family of my own to support as well as numerous consignors depending on me.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Rich Beale, post: 4252076, member: 77960"][USER=110740]@oldfinecollector[/USER] I'm sorry that you have decided to make this personal. This kind of un-called for vitriol from uninformed and prejudiced people is precisely the reason why I normally avoid participation in such discussions. For the record, I drive a [U]17 year old Vauxhall Vectra[/U]. HK52 JXP. Look it up. It's failed its MOT 3 times and I just replaced the clutch and rear suspension. Ask someone who knows me the last time I bought myself new clothes, or indeed anything nice for that matter. If you've found that someone who knows me ask them how I spend every minute of my day when I'm not at work. You say I "don't deserve to be a professional guy". You don't have the right to make these statements and even if you did, you'd be polite not to. If we auction 20,000 lots per year, and maybe 5(?) at most have a problem serious enough to warrant return, I'd say that's a pretty solid endorsement of the "control" you say we don't exercise. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but no auction house is perfect. Not even Elsen, who you hold up as an exemplar. Why don't we look at the example of this heavily and obviously smoothed and tooled coin from their last auction that was described as tooled when it was sold by The New York Sale in 2004, but not described as such when auctioned by Elsen in December. [URL]https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?lot=399&p=lot&sid=3567[/URL] Yes you take care of yourself too. I probably WILL have a very bad time. I have 10 employees, some with families, and a family of my own to support as well as numerous consignors depending on me.[/QUOTE]
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