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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2201570, member: 19463"]As always we have a fine write-up by AJ. I recall once seeing (but could not find it today) a discussion of the elephant variety shown on these coins. Today we recognize African and Asian but the Titus shows a round eared elephant not really like either. The question is where did Titus get his elephants.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]428918[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]428919[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>A matter AJ is not likely to find of great interest is coin wear caused by the silver alloy used in this period. His perfect coins are more amazing when you consider that very high silver content coins wear more like gold than like the alloyed coins of the next century. My two denarii are very worn and much more like most you will see.</p><p><br /></p><p>The Elephant of Titus shoes the TRP number nine recorded as a subtractive numeral IX which is unusual for ancient Romans. My Venus above shows nine as the more common VIIII. I have not done a study of all the Roman numerals shown on coins but this IX is unusual enough that it deserves mention. There is also some disagreement as to what is shown by the diamond pattern on the Titus variety elephant. AJ's is as clear as these get and supports that it was just how they showed elephant skin texture. Some claim the elephant was wearing patterned armor or fancy cloth as we see in India today. My Septimius Severus example shows similar cross-hatching but much more normally shaped ears.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]428932[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>My Commodus as is too worn to add much to this discussion but he does have nice long tusks. The ears appear squared.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]428936[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course we get good elephants from India, Baktria and surrounding regions which we assume are all Asian varieties.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 2201570, member: 19463"]As always we have a fine write-up by AJ. I recall once seeing (but could not find it today) a discussion of the elephant variety shown on these coins. Today we recognize African and Asian but the Titus shows a round eared elephant not really like either. The question is where did Titus get his elephants. [ATTACH=full]428918[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]428919[/ATTACH] A matter AJ is not likely to find of great interest is coin wear caused by the silver alloy used in this period. His perfect coins are more amazing when you consider that very high silver content coins wear more like gold than like the alloyed coins of the next century. My two denarii are very worn and much more like most you will see. The Elephant of Titus shoes the TRP number nine recorded as a subtractive numeral IX which is unusual for ancient Romans. My Venus above shows nine as the more common VIIII. I have not done a study of all the Roman numerals shown on coins but this IX is unusual enough that it deserves mention. There is also some disagreement as to what is shown by the diamond pattern on the Titus variety elephant. AJ's is as clear as these get and supports that it was just how they showed elephant skin texture. Some claim the elephant was wearing patterned armor or fancy cloth as we see in India today. My Septimius Severus example shows similar cross-hatching but much more normally shaped ears. [ATTACH=full]428932[/ATTACH] My Commodus as is too worn to add much to this discussion but he does have nice long tusks. The ears appear squared. [ATTACH=full]428936[/ATTACH] Of course we get good elephants from India, Baktria and surrounding regions which we assume are all Asian varieties.[/QUOTE]
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