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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Marsyas Mike, post: 4055862, member: 85693&quot;]I am pulling up this thread yet again because I recently got another Seleucid horsehead countermark (but no anchor) on an elephant AE.&nbsp; This is different than the one I posted above. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the new one - the horse head is bigger - and the host coin is considerably heavier than my first one:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1062514[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Seleucid</b> <b>Kingdom</b> <b>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Æ 24</b></p><p><b>Antiochos III the Great</b></p><p><b>Military mint in Ekbatana </b></p><p><b>c. 210 B.C. / countermarked <b>in Coele-Syria c. 202-198 B.C.</b></b></p><p>Antiochos III as Apollo right / [ΒΑΣΙΛEΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ], elephant &amp; mahout right, [tripod &amp; monogram?].&nbsp; SC 1272</p><p><b>Countermark:</b>&nbsp; Horse head.</p><p>(14.06 grams / 24 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the one I posted above (new photo) - smaller horse head:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1062512[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><b>Seleucid</b> <b>Kingdom</b> <b>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Æ 21</b></p><p><b>Antiochos III the Great <b>Military mint in Ekbatana <b>c. 210 B.C. / countermarked <b>in Coele-Syria c. 202-198 B.C.</b></b></b></b></p><p>Antiochos III as Apollo right / ΒΑΣΙΛEΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ, elephant &amp; mahout right.</p><p><b>CM:</b>&nbsp; Anchor &amp; Horse’s Head</p><p>SC 1084e; ESM 656; Spaer</p><p>819-821</p><p>(8.01 grams / 21 mm)</p><p><br /></p><p>Here are the two of them together - note the size/weight difference:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1062513[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>For both of these I am attaching this note:</p><p><br /></p><p>&quot;The...bronzes were apparently countermarked first with a horse head, and later with an anchor...The Seleucid army needed to impose the use of this fiduciary</p><p>coinage on the population of Ptolemaic Coele Syria during the Fifth Syrian War in order to ensure provisions for its troops.&quot;</p><p>SC I, Appendix 2, (p. 66)</p><p><br /></p><p>How are my attributions?&nbsp; I&#039;m not confident.&nbsp; It looks a lot like the one Pavlos posted above.&nbsp; But maybe the new one is not Seleucid?&nbsp; I found a Pontus-Ptolemaic Kingdom that looks a lot like my host: </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6287880" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6287880" rel="nofollow">https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6287880</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Any information on this newest one would be enormously appreciated.&nbsp; Is it the &quot;horse head&quot; issue the same for both of these (beyond the obvious size differences)?&nbsp; Did some of these just miss the later anchor countermark? </p><p><br /></p><p>And thank you all for enduring my countermark obsessions <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie80" alt=":shame:" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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