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<p>[QUOTE="seth77, post: 7678469, member: 56653"]Regarding the ceasing of antoniniani mintage sometime during the reign of Elagabal, here is a fouree antoninian for Severus Alexander offered by Gorny & Mosch auction 228, 2015. The coin stands at 21mm and 4.35g according to the auction house.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1318773[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>It's a very interesting and I think unlikely coin. Possibly (or likely) "limes falsum" and if so, the trend of making these limes falsa after rare and very rare types has to be (again) put into discussion. I will also re-post in this regard this small 15mm 1.53g "quinarius" that is also an obvious "limes" (I for one would prefer the term notgeld for these monies, but "limes falsa" seems like the most ubiquitous designation) although, as far as I know, there were no official silver quinarii issued for Severus Alexander as Caesar:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1318783[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>As far apart as 100 years, in the 320s a new explosion of "irregular" coinages starts, roughly in the same area -- northern Gallia and the Rhineland -- but radiating as far south as Hispania and possibly Africa, and again copying rare issues from the western mints, namely Lugdunum, Treverorum and Londinium, and even *inventing* types that we do not know from official coinages. Here are two examples - a pseudo-Londinium for Constantine II with the special half-length bust type holding globe and spear but unknown from the official mint proper (many thanks to mr. Lee Toone for his thoughts on it):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1318794[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>and a highly unlikely Licinius II from pseudo-Lugdunum with a possible consular obverse legend (can't be certain, the lettering is rather obscure on that part, but the official mint did not strike anything for Licinius II at this stage):</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1318795[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>My prima facie impression is that whatever authority had these coinages minted, both from the 3rd century and the 4th century, had to be under the rule of Rome and used these distinct designs and types possibly some time after the reigns of the emperors on the effigy (or using effigies that did not wield any power in the area where the coinage was minted) to by-pass the existing laws against counterfeiting the legal tender in use.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="seth77, post: 7678469, member: 56653"]Regarding the ceasing of antoniniani mintage sometime during the reign of Elagabal, here is a fouree antoninian for Severus Alexander offered by Gorny & Mosch auction 228, 2015. The coin stands at 21mm and 4.35g according to the auction house. [ATTACH=full]1318773[/ATTACH] It's a very interesting and I think unlikely coin. Possibly (or likely) "limes falsum" and if so, the trend of making these limes falsa after rare and very rare types has to be (again) put into discussion. I will also re-post in this regard this small 15mm 1.53g "quinarius" that is also an obvious "limes" (I for one would prefer the term notgeld for these monies, but "limes falsa" seems like the most ubiquitous designation) although, as far as I know, there were no official silver quinarii issued for Severus Alexander as Caesar: [ATTACH=full]1318783[/ATTACH] As far apart as 100 years, in the 320s a new explosion of "irregular" coinages starts, roughly in the same area -- northern Gallia and the Rhineland -- but radiating as far south as Hispania and possibly Africa, and again copying rare issues from the western mints, namely Lugdunum, Treverorum and Londinium, and even *inventing* types that we do not know from official coinages. Here are two examples - a pseudo-Londinium for Constantine II with the special half-length bust type holding globe and spear but unknown from the official mint proper (many thanks to mr. Lee Toone for his thoughts on it): [ATTACH=full]1318794[/ATTACH] and a highly unlikely Licinius II from pseudo-Lugdunum with a possible consular obverse legend (can't be certain, the lettering is rather obscure on that part, but the official mint did not strike anything for Licinius II at this stage): [ATTACH=full]1318795[/ATTACH] My prima facie impression is that whatever authority had these coinages minted, both from the 3rd century and the 4th century, had to be under the rule of Rome and used these distinct designs and types possibly some time after the reigns of the emperors on the effigy (or using effigies that did not wield any power in the area where the coinage was minted) to by-pass the existing laws against counterfeiting the legal tender in use.[/QUOTE]
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