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<p>[QUOTE="ahearn, post: 1370154, member: 18211"]I have one of the NGC slabbed coins dated 1781 that I bought a few years ago. Seems to me I paid about $175 but bought a few raw versions later for about $75.</p><p><br /></p><p>All the coins were corroded and required heavy cleaning. Although most were dated 1773 and fresh from the Mexico mint, there were also many (I've never seen any exact numbers) other older coins of the same type in various sizes dated 1772-1782.</p><p><br /></p><p>If my memory is correct (and sometimes it isn't), after the coins were recovered from the wreck south of New Orleans in 1993, they were held in storage for a number of years as the salvagers tried to negotiate deals for their purchase. After a few small sales, they negotiated a large deal with Franklin Mint to purchase the best quality coins. Franklin Mint had them slabbed by NGC, put them in nice wood boxes, and included "certificates." FM then struck an exclusive sales deal with Home Shopping Network to sell a certain large quantity on TV. HSN was the only place you could get those first coins. I had heard news of the deal in the business press and decided to buy one, not knowing if they were going to be available any other way later.</p><p><br /></p><p>After Franklin Mint's deal expired with HSN, they began selling the remainder of the slabbed coins themselves. They sold out within a couple of years and are no longer available from FM -- although they are still available on the secondary market (as you know) -- and other lesser quality nonslabbed coins have been sold by other retailers with taglines such as "Silver Dollar of the American Revolution." </p><p><br /></p><p>Here's a cute little video on FM's website that tells some of the story: </p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.elcazador.com/" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.elcazador.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.elcazador.com/</a>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ahearn, post: 1370154, member: 18211"]I have one of the NGC slabbed coins dated 1781 that I bought a few years ago. Seems to me I paid about $175 but bought a few raw versions later for about $75. All the coins were corroded and required heavy cleaning. Although most were dated 1773 and fresh from the Mexico mint, there were also many (I've never seen any exact numbers) other older coins of the same type in various sizes dated 1772-1782. If my memory is correct (and sometimes it isn't), after the coins were recovered from the wreck south of New Orleans in 1993, they were held in storage for a number of years as the salvagers tried to negotiate deals for their purchase. After a few small sales, they negotiated a large deal with Franklin Mint to purchase the best quality coins. Franklin Mint had them slabbed by NGC, put them in nice wood boxes, and included "certificates." FM then struck an exclusive sales deal with Home Shopping Network to sell a certain large quantity on TV. HSN was the only place you could get those first coins. I had heard news of the deal in the business press and decided to buy one, not knowing if they were going to be available any other way later. After Franklin Mint's deal expired with HSN, they began selling the remainder of the slabbed coins themselves. They sold out within a couple of years and are no longer available from FM -- although they are still available on the secondary market (as you know) -- and other lesser quality nonslabbed coins have been sold by other retailers with taglines such as "Silver Dollar of the American Revolution." Here's a cute little video on FM's website that tells some of the story: [URL]http://www.elcazador.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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