If I might add my 2 cents.... When I was 18, I knew everything there was to know about everything ( or so I thought ) 15 years later, I can't wait to learn something new. Stop all of the speculating, guessing, haggling, argueing and just send the darn thing in to one of the top TPG's and get their PROFESSIONAL opinion.
I do not profess to know much of anything about anything. I am different and do not fit in with the common stereotypes. Now since it is so fake why spend $30 or $40 and have it graded when you can take it to a dealer or two and learn the truth for free?
I'm still aiming for that super rarity. I saw some more pictures of his coin and it is more gold looking than ever! I'd say the odds are 15-1 that it is real and not gold plated but infact almost pure gold!
Well deep down I think I know that but it is still fun to think of them as being possible errors!! hehe
I think I may have finally figured this out. I did some research on the companies that plate these coins - they also make replicas by the way. And they have a product called - vermeil (ver-may), a special type of gold plated product consisting of a base of sterling silver that is coated or plated with gold. So Spider, I think you finally have a reasonable answer as to what it is you have
If it is a replica wouldnt the diameter have to be outrageously bigger than a real one or have COPY stamped on the back?
They are not copies, they are altered coins. They are geniune U.S. mint issues that have been plated by someone outside the mint.
That is quite interesting indeed. Answer me this though! If it were plated with gold wouldnt a tiny bit of detail be dulled out no matter how thin the plating??
Plating, to the best of my knowledge, is generally .007 thick. Not enough to fill in any details, at least not unless you are looking through a SEM.
Didn't we already consider this possibility and reject it because the plating wouldn't add 7 grams ? I thought the thinking was that to get 7 grams of plating added to the coin the plate would be so thick as to nearly obliterate the design and text.
Hmmm good point Bacchus. That renews my theory of it actually being made from a large portion of gold then.
Does anyone know if the Ike was weighed by itself, or in the 2x2 plastic hilder? I weighed an Ike in the 2x2 and it weighed 31.6 grams vs. Spiders Ike at 31.7x grams. Irony?
Guess I didn't make myself clear - they DO make copies. You are correct, they also plate genuine coins. But a genuine coin when plated only gains a fraction of a gram in weight. But a copy, one these vermeils I mentioned, is made of .925 silver and THEN plated with gold. The copies are the same size as the original coins - but they are heavier.
Why would a replica have to be bigger ? It's not a problem to make them the same size. And yes - it would have to have COPY on it somewhere. But not if it was made before the Hobby Protection Act came into being.
A replica would have to be substantially bigger if you didn't want to have to put COPY on the coin. Tomorrow I"m gonna see when the Hobby Act took place and double check the date on this Eisenhower coin. Going to bed now so goodnight.