Eisonhower Dollar?!?!?!

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Spider, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. JoeMoney

    JoeMoney New Member

    No! I dont think so!
     
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  3. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    JoeMoney sir I for one believe it is gold so as a representative of Spider I must respectfully say your response there is erroneous.
     
  4. OldDan

    OldDan 共和党

    O.K. Spider, now I'm being serious! You were right and I never plated a silver dollar at the Mint. But, my son does auto trim and touch up work and has a system whereby he can gold, silver or bronze plate just about any thing. i.e.: radio antena, window trim, side moldings etc. So he and I did plate a couple of silver dollars with gold leaf and it worked to perfection.

    I think you answered your own question when you found no more difference in weight than .1 If it had been gold it would have been much greater than that. You could have also compaired the two coins with a six inch ruller and a pencil. Balance the ruler on the pencil and place the two coins on each end. I believe you will see very little difference, if any . Good luck. :cool:
     
  5. JoeMoney

    JoeMoney New Member

    You have your opinion and I just posted mine... respectfully!
     
  6. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Yes sir but he asked if "anyone" thought it to be gold and I do but you said no one does...Okay now I will say it again yes if it were pure gold it would weigh alot more but my explanation for this is that the core may be a lighter metal.
     
  7. JoeMoney

    JoeMoney New Member


    Well have fun but, what I said was NO I do not think so. Enjoy the thread and the chase as I am done with thread!
     
  8. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Okay but you'll be missing out on the celebrations once it is proven to be gold without a reasonable doubt!!!!!
     
  9. lawdogct

    lawdogct Coin Collector

    Gold has many interesting properties aside from being heavy. Conductivity, durability, and that it can be layered as thinly as just a few molecules thick. That's thin enough to see through ;). That being said, is it possible to be a thin enough plating to not significantly alter the weight of the coin?
     
  10. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Must say that I just don't know at this time Lawdogct.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    As I tried to explain before - that's the problem. For as you suggest plating, as a general rule is extremely thin. It typically adds less than fraction of a gram to the weight of a coin. But this coin is more than 7 grams heavier than it should be.

    Also - if the plating, regardless of the material used, was thick enough to add 7 grams of weight, the details and legends of the coin would be obliterated - you wouldn't be able to see them. But yet you can as shown by the pics.

    Which is why the only reasonable explanation I can think of is that the coin is a replica. That doesn't mean I am right - but the evidence provided rather supports the idea.
     
  12. WaA140

    WaA140 New Member

    Having read most of this thread (and having learned a lot by having done so), quite frankly, I find it darn hard to find any holes in GDJMSP's logic. Given what is known about the coin I can't see how it could have come from a US mint. It seems to me that what is left to do is:
    1) using methods recomended by lawdogct, determine if there is any gold content in the coin.
    2) If it is gold (it would have to have a non-gold core) research what other private mints may have produce golden replicas of the Eisenhower dollar
    3) if it isn't gold then you could still search for whether any private mints released any gold-toned Ike replicas, if it still interests you.

    I just seems to me that your next step is to confirm whether the exterior metal is gold or not.

    JMHO,
    Darwin
     
  13. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Yes that is true GDJMSP but then again if the planchet is made out of a large percentage of gold itself as I believe then there is your answer as to the added weight!!
     
  14. Spider

    Spider ~

    i am leaning on the brink of fake and valuable, lets go valuable lets go
     
  15. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Amen. Maintain the faith it is almost pure gold!
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    NOS -

    Let me ask you a question - if it is made of almost pure gold, why does the silver color show through where the plating has worn off ?
     
  17. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Well, to answer your question in that regards my conclusion with that is that there is no silver color showing through but was probably a reflection from a bright light.
     
  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    But Spider has the coin in hand - and he says the silver color shows through - and the pics show it as well.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    See this post -

    03-24-2005, 04:52 PM Post #42

    well guys, i wonder if my local dealer could help for i am an amature, and ill start the bidding at $500 k

    I have noticed on some worn parts, a little silver shows, maybe plated

    btw, brand new scale and it was electronic
     
  20. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    Well I'd like to see another pic or two. All I've seen is the first one he posted here.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

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