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<p>[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 849078, member: 15929"]Surprisingly, with a little looking, even at coin shops, you could end up with a nice coin for just a couple of bucks.</p><p> </p><p>I can remember going to a coin shop and looking at an IKE dollar collection in a Dansco. When I eyeballed the Type 2 in the 1972 slot, I thought sure everybody heard me gasp! </p><p> </p><p>The proprietor was asking around $225 for the entire collection but I offered to buy just a couple of coins. I got an nice MS64 Type 2 for $2.50. I did feel kinda bad but folks really should know what they are selling and with IKE's, it's really an open playing court.</p><p> </p><p>The series has been dissed and ignored for so long that the truely unique coins which cause collectors of other series to scream "Yowza", are just totally ignored!</p><p> </p><p>Who knows, perhaps the series is destined for the 2 cent or 3 cent series scrap heap where only high grade MS examples get any kind of a deserving nod?</p><p> </p><p>What I do know, is that since it HAS been ignored for so many years, there are many, many unique and curious discoveries to be made within the series!</p><p> </p><p>The 1972 Type 2 coin was only the beginning. Although the use of a Proof Reverse Die was not unknown, since it occured with frequency on the Washington Quarters, the Type 2 did give the Eisenhower series the popularity injection it needed. However, shortly after that, folks seem to forget to check and the series went dormant again.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T2EarthLabeledW.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>In December 1999, another unique coin was "discovered". (Imagine that, a discovery 28 years after the fact!) The 1971-D RDV-006. Another totally different reverse die design and absolutely nobody knew about it! Why? Because folks just weren't looking!</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T6EarthLabeledW.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>The RDV-006 (Reverse Die Variety) is more than likely the result of the US Mint's failed attempt at producing a Copper Nickel Proof for the 1971 Proof Sets. </p><p> </p><p>Evidence proves that the San Fransisco mint shipped substandard planchet's and die's to the Denver Facility. How else could you explain the 1969-D through 1972-D Type B Washington quarters? (A Type B Washington is the reverse design for the Proof Washington.)</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/Washington/Type%20B/ArrowTypesMarkedD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Since this obviously DID occur AND the RDV-006 IKE is so distinctly different from its RDV-001 counterpart, (Just like the RDV-002 is from the RDV-001) the only logical conclusion is that the RDV-006 was intended to be the Copper Nickel Proof design. But, since the project was scrapped, the planchets AND the die's were shipped to Denver for the circulation production of the coin.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T1EarthLabeledW.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T6EarthLabeledW.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>The Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollars Appendices speak of Prototype strikes for the Eisenhower Dollar. None had ever been seen since all were supposedly destroyed. In February 2008 the First example of one of these Prototype's was found. Not "discovered" but "found". This was a 1971-S 40% Silver clad coin which had gone "unnoticed". The obverse design was different and the reverse design was different and all after only 37 years of existence? Imagine that!</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T7EarthLabeledW.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Trust me folks, there are many more "New" variations of the Eisenhower Dollars that are yet to be found with just a little bit of patience and a lot of looking.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T1-T2-T3-T6-T7EarthCopyright-D.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>The Type 2 is merely the starting point. Next comes Doubled Die Obverses:</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/DDO/FS-106%2013651354/01-1971-SFS-10613651354PCGSPR69DCAM.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Doubled Die Reverses:</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/DDO/1971-S%20DDR%204000689/37-1971-SDDR4000689ANACSPR68DCAM-St.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/DDO/1971-S%20DDR%204000689/38-1971-SDDR4000689ANACSPR68DCAM-St.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Then Peg Legs:</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/PegLegs/PegLegAresNew.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Then Reverse Design Varieties:</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/FEP/1971-DCraters2007C.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Then repunched Mintmarks:</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/RPM/IKE1971-SSilverFS-501RPM12565864PCG.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /> <img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/RPM/05-1971-DRPMW.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>Then Mintmark Styles (1974):</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/MintMark%20Styles/1974MintMarks-TextArrowsD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>And last but not least, counterfeits (Yes this coin has counterfeits):</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Counterfeit/IKE1971-SCounterfeitCoinD.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p><img src="http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Counterfeit/IKE1971-SCounterfeit-02.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p> </p><p>It's all there for the looking and for the taking.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="19Lyds, post: 849078, member: 15929"]Surprisingly, with a little looking, even at coin shops, you could end up with a nice coin for just a couple of bucks. I can remember going to a coin shop and looking at an IKE dollar collection in a Dansco. When I eyeballed the Type 2 in the 1972 slot, I thought sure everybody heard me gasp! The proprietor was asking around $225 for the entire collection but I offered to buy just a couple of coins. I got an nice MS64 Type 2 for $2.50. I did feel kinda bad but folks really should know what they are selling and with IKE's, it's really an open playing court. The series has been dissed and ignored for so long that the truely unique coins which cause collectors of other series to scream "Yowza", are just totally ignored! Who knows, perhaps the series is destined for the 2 cent or 3 cent series scrap heap where only high grade MS examples get any kind of a deserving nod? What I do know, is that since it HAS been ignored for so many years, there are many, many unique and curious discoveries to be made within the series! The 1972 Type 2 coin was only the beginning. Although the use of a Proof Reverse Die was not unknown, since it occured with frequency on the Washington Quarters, the Type 2 did give the Eisenhower series the popularity injection it needed. However, shortly after that, folks seem to forget to check and the series went dormant again. [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T2EarthLabeledW.jpg[/IMG] In December 1999, another unique coin was "discovered". (Imagine that, a discovery 28 years after the fact!) The 1971-D RDV-006. Another totally different reverse die design and absolutely nobody knew about it! Why? Because folks just weren't looking! [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T6EarthLabeledW.jpg[/IMG] The RDV-006 (Reverse Die Variety) is more than likely the result of the US Mint's failed attempt at producing a Copper Nickel Proof for the 1971 Proof Sets. Evidence proves that the San Fransisco mint shipped substandard planchet's and die's to the Denver Facility. How else could you explain the 1969-D through 1972-D Type B Washington quarters? (A Type B Washington is the reverse design for the Proof Washington.) [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/Washington/Type%20B/ArrowTypesMarkedD.jpg[/IMG] Since this obviously DID occur AND the RDV-006 IKE is so distinctly different from its RDV-001 counterpart, (Just like the RDV-002 is from the RDV-001) the only logical conclusion is that the RDV-006 was intended to be the Copper Nickel Proof design. But, since the project was scrapped, the planchets AND the die's were shipped to Denver for the circulation production of the coin. [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T1EarthLabeledW.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T6EarthLabeledW.jpg[/IMG] The Authoritative Reference on Eisenhower Dollars Appendices speak of Prototype strikes for the Eisenhower Dollar. None had ever been seen since all were supposedly destroyed. In February 2008 the First example of one of these Prototype's was found. Not "discovered" but "found". This was a 1971-S 40% Silver clad coin which had gone "unnoticed". The obverse design was different and the reverse design was different and all after only 37 years of existence? Imagine that! [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T7EarthLabeledW.jpg[/IMG] Trust me folks, there are many more "New" variations of the Eisenhower Dollars that are yet to be found with just a little bit of patience and a lot of looking. [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Types/T1-T2-T3-T6-T7EarthCopyright-D.jpg[/IMG] The Type 2 is merely the starting point. Next comes Doubled Die Obverses: [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/DDO/FS-106%2013651354/01-1971-SFS-10613651354PCGSPR69DCAM.jpg[/IMG] Doubled Die Reverses: [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/DDO/1971-S%20DDR%204000689/37-1971-SDDR4000689ANACSPR68DCAM-St.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/DDO/1971-S%20DDR%204000689/38-1971-SDDR4000689ANACSPR68DCAM-St.jpg[/IMG] Then Peg Legs: [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/PegLegs/PegLegAresNew.jpg[/IMG] Then Reverse Design Varieties: [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/FEP/1971-DCraters2007C.jpg[/IMG] Then repunched Mintmarks: [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/RPM/IKE1971-SSilverFS-501RPM12565864PCG.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/RPM/05-1971-DRPMW.jpg[/IMG] Then Mintmark Styles (1974): [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/MintMark%20Styles/1974MintMarks-TextArrowsD.jpg[/IMG] And last but not least, counterfeits (Yes this coin has counterfeits): [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Counterfeit/IKE1971-SCounterfeitCoinD.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u8/lcl1119/IKEs/Counterfeit/IKE1971-SCounterfeit-02.jpg[/IMG] It's all there for the looking and for the taking.[/QUOTE]
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