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<p>[QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 7911002, member: 79368"]This new Leu Eid Mar is a bit of a puzzle. It purports to be from these dies:</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1365877[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]1365878[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>This is the Leu 17 (1977), lot 833 = Naville II (1922), lot 37 example.</p><p><br /></p><p>Technically, Cahn calls it this reverse die from the ANS specimen, which Cahn calls a different die than the above specimen, but I think they are probably the same die.</p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1365886[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1365881[/ATTACH]</p><p><br /></p><p>BRVT lines up pretty well as does IMP in relation to the nose. And the reverse is a perfect match. What I don't understand is the shape of the ear which is very angular on the new specimen, the A in PLAET points below the ear on the new specimen, and CEST appears to be too far away from the bust (in fact on all the dies the bust almost sits on top of CEST, and I don't see that on this specimen). Looking at all the other known obverse dies for this issue (8 at present count, for the 95 coins I have photos of), this new example doesn't match any of the other dies either. </p><p><br /></p><p>So I guess this could be a new obverse die. Nothing from the photo suggests that the coin is a forgery. I will add this to my files for now. Hopefully I get a chance to see this coin in hand.</p><p><br /></p><p>Barry Murphy[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Barry Murphy, post: 7911002, member: 79368"]This new Leu Eid Mar is a bit of a puzzle. It purports to be from these dies: [ATTACH=full]1365877[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]1365878[/ATTACH] This is the Leu 17 (1977), lot 833 = Naville II (1922), lot 37 example. Technically, Cahn calls it this reverse die from the ANS specimen, which Cahn calls a different die than the above specimen, but I think they are probably the same die. [ATTACH=full]1365886[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]1365881[/ATTACH] BRVT lines up pretty well as does IMP in relation to the nose. And the reverse is a perfect match. What I don't understand is the shape of the ear which is very angular on the new specimen, the A in PLAET points below the ear on the new specimen, and CEST appears to be too far away from the bust (in fact on all the dies the bust almost sits on top of CEST, and I don't see that on this specimen). Looking at all the other known obverse dies for this issue (8 at present count, for the 95 coins I have photos of), this new example doesn't match any of the other dies either. So I guess this could be a new obverse die. Nothing from the photo suggests that the coin is a forgery. I will add this to my files for now. Hopefully I get a chance to see this coin in hand. Barry Murphy[/QUOTE]
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