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Ocatarinetabellatchitchix · Sep 24, 2021

Barry Murphy said: ↑

Looking at all the other known obverse dies for this issue (8 at present count, for the 95 coins I have photos of), this new example doesn't match any of the other dies either.
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Would it be possible to verify if the obverse matches one of the 16 (?) plated specimens actually known ? I do not believe such a connection have been done between the 95 genuine examples and the ancient fourrées.

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Barry Murphy · Sep 24, 2021

I checked the plated examples as well and it doesn't match any of those.

There are 6 known obverse dies for the fourres. None match any of the known official dies.

Barry Murphy

Barry Murphy · Nov 30, 2021

Barry Murphy said: ↑

So I guess this could be a new obverse die. Nothing from the photo suggests that the coin is a forgery. I will add this to my files for now. Hopefully I get a chance to see this coin in hand.

Barry Murphy
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Sometimes you get what you ask for. This coin crossed my desk this morning. I've had time to examine the coin in hand and in our opinion the coin is genuine.

The metal is properly crystalized.

The coin is struck, not cast. XFR showed the metal composition to be 98.5% AG, 0.7% AV, 0.2% CU and 0.2% FE which is consistent with the other 4 Eid Mar's I've tested.

The coin is from a new obverse die. The differences I noted before are not an artifact of the photography.

Barry Murphy

Cheech9712 · Jan 24, 2023

Ocatarinetabellatchitchix said: ↑

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The Eid Mar coin was voted the most famous coin of all time. In Harlan J. Berks book’s « 100 greatest Ancient coins », the denarius is rated number one in his category. Why ? First it openly celebrates an act of murder ; the bloody execution of the dictator Julius Caesar in the Senate house on the Ides of March of 44 BC. It is one of the most important event in the history of the western world. Secondly it is the only and unique Roman coin to mention a specific date. And thirdly it is one of the rare specific coin to has been mentioned by an ancient authority : Cassius Dio, the Roman historian ( 155-235 AD ) wrote about it in Historia Romana ( XLVII.25, 3 ) :
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Now let’s analyse what’s on the denarius. The obverse of the coin features a portrait of Brutus, himself, and the legend : L PLAET CEST BRUT IMP. L Plaetorius Cestianus is the name of the moneyer who minted the coin ; Brutus Imperator is quite obvious. About the portrait, we have to remember that in the Roman Republic, it was considered indecent and inappropriate to put the image of a living person on a coin. Julius Caesar made that mistake, and a rebellion was fomented against him and finally is assassination was planed. But here we have Brutus doing exactly the same thing.... According to S.Nodelman, who examine methodically in detail the Eid Mar serie, they are two différent categories of portrait of Brutus : plastic and linear. He suggested that both types got their origins from the same sculptural prototype.
On the reverse we can read the legend : EID MAR , meaning Eidibus Martiis or the « Ides of March » ( Eidibus (ides) is Latin for an equal division, or middle ). We also recognize a cap of freedom between two daggers. Even if many men were involved in the slaying of Caesar, all are represented by only 2 daggers ; this is clearly a reference to Brutus and Cassius as leaders of the group. The cap is a pileus, which in Roman times was given to slaves on the day of their liberation from slavery. The message was intended to convey that on the Ides of March, Brutus set the people of Rome free. Some historians believe that, when he committed suicide during the second battle at Philippi on 23 Oct. 42 BC, he used the same dagger with which he assassinated Caesar...

The coins were struck by a moving mint that advanced with Brutus’ and Cassius’ army in northern Greece in the late summer of 42 BC. The EID MAR denarius was produced to pay Brutus’ troops and campaign expenses . The coin type was later recalled by the victorious Mark Antony and Octavian and melted down. Today they are approximately 85 known specimens of this very rare coin, from 8 obverse and 26 reverse dies. Let’s say you decide to sell your house and buy one ; how much would you expect to pay for the famous rarity ? As usual, it will depend on the quality and also the pedigree of the coin. But here is a brief overview of the sales made in auctions since 2010 ( converted in US $ ) :

2010 : 37500 $ , 60000 $.
2011 : 246000 $, 546200 $.

The pricier Eid Mar of all time

2013 : 90000 $, 307000 $.
2014 : 185000 $, 67000 $, 73000 $, 440000 $, 123000 $.

At 440000 US$, a real deal

2015 : 85000 $.
2016 : 120000 $, 333000 $, 410000 $.
2018 : 73000 $.

If you don’t have that kind of budget, why don’t you try acquiring a fourree or a nice imitative denarius of the EID MAR? At least 16 examples of plated coins had survived. Think about the high ratio of imitatives versus official issues ! It is believed that the EID MAR is certainly one of the most contemporaneously counterfeited coin in ancient history. Were they produced by disaffected, frustrated or avaricious Republican soldiers ? That may explain why silver supplies in Brutus’ camp was decreasing . One thing is for sure : none of the fourree can be die match with the real solid silver denarius. A brief recapitulation of the recent sales in auctions is quite interesting :

2012 : 4260 $
2015 : 4500 $ , 5400 $.
2017 : 8450 $.
2018 : 19300 $ , 24000 $.

A nice fourree for 24000$

Until now we have examined the silver denarius EID MAR. But what about the gold aureus of this same type ? There are 2 specimens known , and only one is believed to be authentic. The first example belongs to the British Museum collections since 1825. It was donated by George IV, King of the United Kingdom , and previously owned by his father King Georges III. After being analyzed by many experts, it is today classified in the category « modern forgery ».

The second aureus can also be found in the British Museum. It was displayed for the first time at the Ides of March of 2010. The Museum was first shown the coin in 1932 but couldn't afford to buy it. Many private owners later, it has now been loaned to the museum . The coin was punched with a hole shortly after it was minted, probably so it could be worn – certainly by a supporter, maybe by one of the conspirators or by Brutus himself. The piece was sold in 2004 for 92800 $ . By 2008, the aureus has doubled in value and was resold for 226500 $. It is in my opinion quite a modest price for a coin of this rarity. They have been many debates by experts about this exceptional coin . Even M.Crawford refused to include it in his Roman Republican Coinage in 1974. He believed the coin to be a forgery, and was sceptical about the existence of this issue. But in 1989, H.Cahn , in his study on dies of the Eid Mar coins, explained that the style and the epigraphy of this aureus perfectly matched the serie. So if we condamn this coin, we are also doubting all the denarius in this series that share with this specimen certain stylistic and and epigraphic attributes .

Real or fake?

Let’s conclude with an interesting anecdote about a specimen of the famous Brutus’ coin. Do you know what is the « European Union Directive 93/7 » ? It’s a law on the return of cultural objects unlawfully removed from the territory of a member State. The first time it was used in Britain in 2006, it was involving an Eid Mar denarius. The story started in June 2005 when two men were meeting with a responsable of CNG in their office in London. They had a rare example of the Ides of March coin for sale and the auction house had showed some interest. The first man was a Munich coin dealer and the other one the Greek owner of the piece. They agreed on a price and the transaction worked smoothly; until our two guys tried to cross the Customs at the airport with 23000 $ in their pockets which they didn’t have when they arrived earlier the same day. What tipped the agents is when they discovered that the Greek man had a criminal record for trafficking in stolen antiquities , and the dealer once worked for a notorious European trafficker of looted treasures.....so they seized the cash under the UK’s proceed of Crime Act. Not long after that, the Greek government filed a claim for recover the coin. CNG held it for 11 months instead of selling the coin, which it could have done under British law, and finally the Court asked them to give it back, and that’s what they did without protest. It has been established that the Eid Mar was from Greek origin. At the time, it was only the fifth coin of this type to have a hellenistic provenance. The story didn’t tell if CNG got his money back...

I’m not going to ask you to post your Eid Mar coin ... but my question is : let’s suppose tomorrow an unknown uncle of yours dies and leave you an inheritance of 200000 $...and there is a nice Brutus denarius for sale in an auction .... would you be able to resist ???
My answer : I’ m gonna quote the Irish poet Oscar Wilde who once said :
« I can resist anything except temptation... »
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Yeah I would display it in Rome under my FAVORITE uncles name.

Cheech9712 · Jan 24, 2023

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