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<p>[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1139748, member: 19463"]This is a hard question. Most of us work by recollecting what we have seen before and then going to the appropriate book or website to confirm. A large, thick relatively round silver makes me think Greek of the later period (after Alexander the Great). The Eagle reverse makes me think of Ptolemaic Egypt (founded by Alexander's general Ptolemy I). From there you can go book and check the Ptolemaic section of David Sear's Greek Coins and their values (a beginner's reference) of search online for Ptolemy coins. Sear page 735 shows a couple coins that are similar and unillustrated coin #7773 shows the club if that is what I thought I saw on the photo even though it is unlikely that you will find an exact match since there are so many varieties. There are more specialized books but they cost good money and only specialists and book collectors would have them. </p><p> </p><p>Online searching for coins of Ptolemy gives several hits including</p><p><a href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/egypt/ptolemy_II/t.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/egypt/ptolemy_II/t.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/egypt/ptolemy_II/t.html</a></p><p> </p><p>which has a lot of pictures for comparison and very little more chance of an absolute exact match but starts in the right direction. At this point, I can't tell you which image is the closest match since the fuzzy photos we had here don't show minor details. The question of its being a fake leads me to</p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=20&page=17" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=20&page=17" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=20&page=17</a></p><p>where I fail to find an exact match but wonder how similar it would be to a coin part way down the page that has several angles on a coin made recently in the middle East if we could see the details. Fakers are constantly coming out with new product so we can't be too hardline expecting to find every on on a list like this. </p><p> </p><p>I'm no expert in all ancient coins. I've only been collecting for 45 years. There are some things I am more comfortable with and probably could be really certain of 99% of the coins I see. Ptolemaic silver is not my speciality so I'd only bet on my guess here as a 50-50 proposition. There are a few people who present themselves as experts on everything but the best 'experts' I know are more likely to claim a 95% certainty in most ancients. It is hard to keep up on a million different coins. That is why I don't recommend ancients to investors. They are more work than they are worth unless you also are getting some fun out of the process or stick to a very few very safe things with signed certificates of authenticity (never with guarantees). The safe investment is to pay top dollar and buy from full price dealers you have some reason to trust or by a few thousand dollars worth of books and go on a ten year crash course of study. </p><p> </p><p>Some will say I am overly sanguine on the matter but if your <u>only</u> interest in coins is capital gain, I suggest buying something else.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dougsmit, post: 1139748, member: 19463"]This is a hard question. Most of us work by recollecting what we have seen before and then going to the appropriate book or website to confirm. A large, thick relatively round silver makes me think Greek of the later period (after Alexander the Great). The Eagle reverse makes me think of Ptolemaic Egypt (founded by Alexander's general Ptolemy I). From there you can go book and check the Ptolemaic section of David Sear's Greek Coins and their values (a beginner's reference) of search online for Ptolemy coins. Sear page 735 shows a couple coins that are similar and unillustrated coin #7773 shows the club if that is what I thought I saw on the photo even though it is unlikely that you will find an exact match since there are so many varieties. There are more specialized books but they cost good money and only specialists and book collectors would have them. Online searching for coins of Ptolemy gives several hits including [URL]http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/egypt/ptolemy_II/t.html[/URL] which has a lot of pictures for comparison and very little more chance of an absolute exact match but starts in the right direction. At this point, I can't tell you which image is the closest match since the fuzzy photos we had here don't show minor details. The question of its being a fake leads me to [URL]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/thumbnails.php?album=20&page=17[/URL] where I fail to find an exact match but wonder how similar it would be to a coin part way down the page that has several angles on a coin made recently in the middle East if we could see the details. Fakers are constantly coming out with new product so we can't be too hardline expecting to find every on on a list like this. I'm no expert in all ancient coins. I've only been collecting for 45 years. There are some things I am more comfortable with and probably could be really certain of 99% of the coins I see. Ptolemaic silver is not my speciality so I'd only bet on my guess here as a 50-50 proposition. There are a few people who present themselves as experts on everything but the best 'experts' I know are more likely to claim a 95% certainty in most ancients. It is hard to keep up on a million different coins. That is why I don't recommend ancients to investors. They are more work than they are worth unless you also are getting some fun out of the process or stick to a very few very safe things with signed certificates of authenticity (never with guarantees). The safe investment is to pay top dollar and buy from full price dealers you have some reason to trust or by a few thousand dollars worth of books and go on a ten year crash course of study. Some will say I am overly sanguine on the matter but if your [U]only[/U] interest in coins is capital gain, I suggest buying something else.[/QUOTE]
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