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<p>[QUOTE="silvereagle82, post: 788903, member: 1700"]I agree the photos are really too small to compare but I disagree with the OP being comparable to "these". </p><p><br /></p><p>punekari, as you can see from the responses to your post, opinions on coin grading and authentication are all over the place. The debate of whether to go with "raw" coin with a dealers authentification/guarantee vs buying a "slabbed' coin with a third-party (NGC and/or PCGS)authentification/guarantee goes back to when third-party grading services were started (in the eighties, I think) and surely won't end anytime soon. </p><p><br /></p><p>I have bought raw coins from US/European auction houses that would not tpg mainly due to cleaning issues. So have I stopped buying raw coins?.. no, but I'm much more vigilent in my buying of raw coins by studying photos more closely, translating descriptions better, and asking follow-up questions to the dealers, etc. Only after this process do I buy a raw coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>Only 5% of my coin purchases were having seen the coin in hand prior to the purchase and I although I think I'm an adequate grader, world gold particuliarly hammered gold, is very hard to grade on the Sheldon grade ..... so with all that said for my money 1) I always try to buy from reputable dealers with return policies 2) I buy coins that are slabbed (TPG). If I elect to break them out of the slab so be it, personally I don't. 3) FWIW I follow the collector world gold market very closely, I do not see any appreciable difference in prices between raw and tpg coins .. so the way I see it ... why buy a raw coin? With that said "most" world coins are not TPG therefore if you see a coin you would like to buy ... go to my #1 or if you do like I do and buy via the auction route, buy what you like but study photos more closely, translate descriptions better, and ask follow-up questions to the auctioneers prior to auction. If you elect to get it TPG be prepared for their assessment. Then its your choice on whether to keep it or not <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />. Personally I have kept some and got rid of some when the results were not to my liking. I value the look or eye appeal of the coin ... lustre, bold strike, fullness and centering of strike on planch, etc., so as JeromeLS said it isn't always about the grade !!!</p><p><br /></p><p>I do own a mint state Edward III Gold Noble and yes it TPG (and still in a slab, for storage and protection as I see it) and yes I paid a price comparable to the prices stated by the previous posters.</p><p><br /></p><p>FWIW .. I'm a collector of coins ... I invest in stocks, bonds, real estate, CDs and of course myself !![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="silvereagle82, post: 788903, member: 1700"]I agree the photos are really too small to compare but I disagree with the OP being comparable to "these". punekari, as you can see from the responses to your post, opinions on coin grading and authentication are all over the place. The debate of whether to go with "raw" coin with a dealers authentification/guarantee vs buying a "slabbed' coin with a third-party (NGC and/or PCGS)authentification/guarantee goes back to when third-party grading services were started (in the eighties, I think) and surely won't end anytime soon. I have bought raw coins from US/European auction houses that would not tpg mainly due to cleaning issues. So have I stopped buying raw coins?.. no, but I'm much more vigilent in my buying of raw coins by studying photos more closely, translating descriptions better, and asking follow-up questions to the dealers, etc. Only after this process do I buy a raw coin. Only 5% of my coin purchases were having seen the coin in hand prior to the purchase and I although I think I'm an adequate grader, world gold particuliarly hammered gold, is very hard to grade on the Sheldon grade ..... so with all that said for my money 1) I always try to buy from reputable dealers with return policies 2) I buy coins that are slabbed (TPG). If I elect to break them out of the slab so be it, personally I don't. 3) FWIW I follow the collector world gold market very closely, I do not see any appreciable difference in prices between raw and tpg coins .. so the way I see it ... why buy a raw coin? With that said "most" world coins are not TPG therefore if you see a coin you would like to buy ... go to my #1 or if you do like I do and buy via the auction route, buy what you like but study photos more closely, translate descriptions better, and ask follow-up questions to the auctioneers prior to auction. If you elect to get it TPG be prepared for their assessment. Then its your choice on whether to keep it or not :). Personally I have kept some and got rid of some when the results were not to my liking. I value the look or eye appeal of the coin ... lustre, bold strike, fullness and centering of strike on planch, etc., so as JeromeLS said it isn't always about the grade !!! I do own a mint state Edward III Gold Noble and yes it TPG (and still in a slab, for storage and protection as I see it) and yes I paid a price comparable to the prices stated by the previous posters. FWIW .. I'm a collector of coins ... I invest in stocks, bonds, real estate, CDs and of course myself !![/QUOTE]
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