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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;GDJMSP, post: 788764, member: 112&quot;]Uhhhh guys - if would be extremely helpful to most people if you would be a bit more accurate with your statements regarding whether or not NGC offers a guarantee on authenticity. </p><p><br /></p><p>You guys are making statements that do not even apply to the coin in question, an English noble. No, NGC <u>does not</u> offer a guarantee of authenticity on ancients. But <u>they do</u> offer a guarantee of authenticity on all other coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>NGC clearly defines which coins they do not guarantee - </p><p><br /></p><p><i>Welcome to NGC Ancients, a branch of Numismatic Guaranty Corporation devoted to ancient coins. We identify and grade most coins struck in the Western world from the origins of coinage through c. AD 500, as well as coins of the Byzantine Empire (AD 491-1453). <b>All other eligible World coins can be graded under NGC’s World Coin program.</b></i> &nbsp; (the bold is mine)<a href="http://www.ngccoin.com/ancients/index.aspx" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ngccoin.com/ancients/index.aspx" rel="nofollow">NGC Ancients</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Then you have this - </p><p><br /></p><p><i><b>All US and World coins</b> and all tokens and medals certified and encapsulated by NGC <b>are guaranteed authentic</b>. (again the bold is mine)</i></p><p><i><br /></i></p><p><i>The grade of all coins certified by NGC is guaranteed, with the exception of details graded coins, which are guaranteed to be authentic only.</i>&nbsp; <a href="http://www.ngccoin.com/services/writtenguarantee.asp" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ngccoin.com/services/writtenguarantee.asp" rel="nofollow">NGC Guarantee</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Now the coin in this thread, the English noble, if slabbed by NGC, is absolutely guaranteed to be authentic.</p><p><br /></p><p>The only coins they do not offer a guarantee of authenticity on are those listed above. And if you take the time to read it, they explain why they do not guarantee authenticity on those specific coins.</p><p><br /></p><p>All of that said, if the OP had answered my original question of who the dealer was, much of this discussion would have been avoided. Spink is extremely reputable and they have a very good return policy. Thus I would have no problem buying a coin being offered by them in regard to concerns of authenticity.</p><p><br /></p><p>But I stand by my previous comments that based on the pics alone, the coin appears to be a cast fake. And when all you have are pictures, and not very good pictures, you have to go by what you can see.</p><p><br /></p><p>So, even if we assume that the coin is genuine, since it is offered by Spink, that does not make it a good buy. For all of the marks that are evident on the coin in the pictures ( that I was thinking were evidence of a cast fake) are still there. The coin is very beat up. Thus I would not want it as a part of my collection.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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