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<p>[QUOTE="AnYangMan, post: 2844388, member: 87271"]Not at all <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> I am far from a true expert, but I just thoroughly enjoy this series. And wow, I totally dig that darkish patina it has! I am a big fan of it! And indeed, Edward II’s story sure isn’t a comedy…</p><p><br /></p><p>As for the identification; this one is far easier than the previous one. Star on breast -> Class 9. The tricky bit is the sub-class, for class 9 is divided into a couple, including some difficult muled classes. 9C is partly off the table, due to it being London mint. This class was only struck in Bury St. Edmunds, not London, but 9B obverse dies, muled with 9C reverse, are known (the same goes for 9C obverse combined with class 10 reverse). But one important thing to note is the shape of the letter “N”. Notice how it has these protruding lines at the top and bottom, and one side is place higher than the other? That is called a “pothook N”, and is a characteristic of class 9B. That also rules out a possible 9C mule, seeing as it is featured on both the obverse and reverse. 9B actually has another subdivision; 9B1 and 9B2. The difference between these classes is the right side-fleur. On your coin, precisely this area is quite worn (or is it because of the double strike?), but if my eyes don’t deceive me, I see the non-straight sided fleur of class 9B1.</p><p><br /></p><p>This class dates from around 1299-1301, comfortably in the reign of Edward I, so the original attribution was at least partially right. You don’t see coins with something on the breast too often (although they are by no means rare), and I find that double strike to be fascinating. Nice coin![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="AnYangMan, post: 2844388, member: 87271"]Not at all ;) I am far from a true expert, but I just thoroughly enjoy this series. And wow, I totally dig that darkish patina it has! I am a big fan of it! And indeed, Edward II’s story sure isn’t a comedy… As for the identification; this one is far easier than the previous one. Star on breast -> Class 9. The tricky bit is the sub-class, for class 9 is divided into a couple, including some difficult muled classes. 9C is partly off the table, due to it being London mint. This class was only struck in Bury St. Edmunds, not London, but 9B obverse dies, muled with 9C reverse, are known (the same goes for 9C obverse combined with class 10 reverse). But one important thing to note is the shape of the letter “N”. Notice how it has these protruding lines at the top and bottom, and one side is place higher than the other? That is called a “pothook N”, and is a characteristic of class 9B. That also rules out a possible 9C mule, seeing as it is featured on both the obverse and reverse. 9B actually has another subdivision; 9B1 and 9B2. The difference between these classes is the right side-fleur. On your coin, precisely this area is quite worn (or is it because of the double strike?), but if my eyes don’t deceive me, I see the non-straight sided fleur of class 9B1. This class dates from around 1299-1301, comfortably in the reign of Edward I, so the original attribution was at least partially right. You don’t see coins with something on the breast too often (although they are by no means rare), and I find that double strike to be fascinating. Nice coin![/QUOTE]
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