Ed's flips

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ed Snible, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

    I have what I believe is a flip innovation. I didn't want to hijack @Severus Alexander 's thread so I have started a new one.

    As a youth I collected world minor coins in cardboard 2x2s. I enjoyed seeing both sides of the coin. I wouldn't want to staple my ancients into a 2x2 but I missed easy access to the back.

    In my coin club we don't like to talk prices. I didn't want to put the purchase price on my flip but I also didn't want to lose the purchase information.

    I have designed a folding flip with viewing hole.

    flip.jpg flip2.jpg

    As you can see from the sample denarius I usually just write the information with a pencil because I am too lazy to type descriptions into software and print it. Occasionally I will do fancy labels like the ones I did for my collection of tin coins from Palembang. My blank labels have my contact information printed on them.

    The interior area is good for additional provenance and other information that would make the public sides of the flip too crowded.

    I print the labels using card stock and cut the holes with three sizes of specialty punches from EK Tools. The card stock is heavy enough that most coins stay near the center of the flip.

    Originally I had attempted to use two 2x2s, as @Alegandron did. A few times I brought a coins to my club to show off and was confused which was which when I tried to return them to the album. I looked for "double 2x2s" but couldn't find any.

    If I have old dealer tags I put them inside the flip. Yes, this blocks the hole. Very tiny things, like dealer addresses cut from envelopes and business cards can rest in the flips without blocking the hole.

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  3. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES! Supporter

    This would be nice for someone who wants to store their coins in an album instead of boxes. I have moderns coins in albums, and some of them are in 2X2 flips with inserts. If I want to see the reverse, I have to take the coin out.
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  4. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I have 200 AV coins in slabs/ I find the data lacking some details with PGGS/NGC/ANACS.
    Another 600 AV/ 200 AR coins are in albums/ 2X2 saflips. One pocket for coin/ other for data labels/auctions tags. Some coins came with upto 4 previous tags dating back to 1920s in cases.
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  5. Valentinian

    Valentinian Supporter! Supporter

    Many collectors and dealers put price information on flips in code. The most famous code is
    because it has 10 letters for 10 digits.
    and you can throw in other letters that are ignored. So
    LDR would be 50 (ignore the D).
    0's and 1's are the most common numbers, so picking a second and third letter to represent 0 and three to represent 1 is a good idea. Then it is not so easy to decipher the code. Also, your real cost is not the price of the item, but the price plus shipping. Adding in shipping makes fewer costs end in 0 or 5, so the the last digit of coded numbers will not expose which letter is 0.

    Of course, you can personalize it with your own code.
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  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    Some clarity:

    My coins are all in an OPEN Saflip. I do not fold them. I put my coin in the bottom pocket, and my tags, attributes, etc. in the top pocket.

    I then have an album with pages that display my saflips in the OPEN positions (2" saflips open is 2"x4" tall)... those pockets are 2"(5cm) wide x 4"(10cm) tall. This accommodates an OPEN saflip.

    So, my album does NOT have 12 slots to hold folded Saflips; rather they have SIX slots per page to hold my OPEN Saflips...

    The illusion of the pocket lines in the album are actually the SAFLIP's pocket lines. So... I do not have the problem of breaking my Saflips as they are stored in the 2"x4" Album page pockets in the OPEN position... no attribute cards that lay behind the coin...

    When I pull out the flip, attribute cards are in the top pocket of the flip, coin in bottom pocket of flip... No confusion as coin and attributes are still in the OPEN Saflip.


    Album pages - 6 pockets that fit OPEN 2"x 4" Saflips,
    2 rows of 3 each 2"wide x 4"tall pockets...


    OPEN Saflip position... put your attribute cards in the TOP pocket; put your coin in BOTTOM pocket. Store in Album page in OPEN position (2"x4")
  7. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    EXAMPLE : ALEE=$25.00
    That code is even older than me but easy to remember.
    Dealer and pawn shops use codes such as these. Crack their code will get you better leverage at the bargaining table.
  8. Ed Snible

    Ed Snible Well-Known Member

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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member Supporter

    This sounds like a place for a price code as Valentinian said. I prefer using only four digits for any price and select a 9 letter word rather than 10 so all letters not in my word can be zeros. This worked well until I started buying coins over $99.99 so I picked a letter not in my code word to mean hundred. You might want one that means thousand (I don't need it but for example lets use x). For a code word, I suggest a compound word that splits 4-5 like 'copyright' making it easy to remember where 5 is. I'll use as an example w for hundred but if my selected word did not include it, I might use h for hundred. All letters not in copyright or w or x are zero. That makes a $10.50 coin CARL or CURE or CBRB equally well since the first and third letters are the only non zeros. $705 is GWAR and $200 is OWLS or anything else starting with OW. I force words where I can. Those with a few coins over $1000 could use COWP for $1234 rounding off the last digit to the nearest $10 to keep it to four letters. Using many different letters for zero makes it harder to see common letters and know what the zero is.
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE Supporter

    They are Littleton ancient album pages. I get them at Wizard, coin supply sources, and/or ebay. I really like my storage and presentation. Since many of my coins are heavy, thick, etc, some of my pages are pretty heavy. Therefore, I cut and punched 100lb archival cardstock as padding, and as a background for the coins.
  11. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander Blame my mother. Supporter

    Neat idea, I like it! And if one other person posts a flip design thread I count as a trendsetter. :)

    Pick your favourite: 10 letter words with no repeats
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  12. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    I've done this since I was 14 years old, using a different code word (or words).
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