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<p>[QUOTE="EdThelorax, post: 3276717, member: 99854"]In order for our hobby to survive we must gain new collectors. When a new collector finds out they have been deceived, stolen from, ripped off, they may chose to not continue collecting. </p><p>The hobby protection act:</p><p> <a href="https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=6ba90b1f402763bcb0388569596c3f4b&rgn=div5&view=text&node=16:1.0.1.3.28&idno=16" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=6ba90b1f402763bcb0388569596c3f4b&rgn=div5&view=text&node=16:1.0.1.3.28&idno=16" rel="nofollow">https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=6ba90b1f402763bcb0388569596c3f4b&rgn=div5&view=text&node=16:1.0.1.3.28&idno=16</a></p><p><br /></p><p>"It shall be a violation of the Act and the regulations promulgated thereunder for a person to provide substantial assistance or support to any manufacturer, importer, or seller of imitation numismatic items, or to any manufacturer or importer of imitation political items, if that person knows or should have known that the manufacturer, importer, or seller is engaged in any practice that violates the Act and the regulations promulgated thereunder."</p><p><br /></p><p>Ebay violates this every single day. I understand that it is impossible to police every single listing. They do not have one single coin expert on their staff. I have used the "report item" then talked to a live rep. from their concierge program about specific counterfeits only to watch them sell days later. </p><p><br /></p><p>I was fortunate enough to be invited to join a private group that has contacts with ebay that does get counterfeits removed. The penalty to the seller for the first 5-10 violations is the listing gets removed. Eventually, they may have that account blocked. They then open another account, or buy an old one off of the dark web. </p><p><br /></p><p>This seller has been doing this for a long time. </p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/qmrpjamie/m.html?item=233042696997&hash=item36426d5b25%3Ag%3AoM0AAOSwPGtb8SU2%3Asc%3AUSPSFirstClass%2116407%21US%21-1%3Ark%3A5%3Apf%3A0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.com/sch/qmrpjamie/m.html?item=233042696997&hash=item36426d5b25%3Ag%3AoM0AAOSwPGtb8SU2%3Asc%3AUSPSFirstClass%2116407%21US%21-1%3Ark%3A5%3Apf%3A0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.com/sch/qmrpjamie/m.html?item=233042696997&hash=item36426d5b25:g:oM0AAOSwPGtb8SU2:sc:USPSFirstClass!16407!US!-1:rk:5:pf:0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562</a></p><p><br /></p><p>This listing will be removed soon but here it is anyway.</p><p><br /></p><p>1955 Double Die-Superior Facsimile Of The Lincoln Cent Error ($350 obo) </p><p><a href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Double-Die-Superior-Facsimile-Of-The-Lincoln-Cent-Error/223298206438?hash=item33fd9c3ae6:g:sLgAAOSwSONcImcz:sc:USPSFirstClass!16407!US!-1:rk:1:pf:0" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Double-Die-Superior-Facsimile-Of-The-Lincoln-Cent-Error/223298206438?hash=item33fd9c3ae6:g:sLgAAOSwSONcImcz:sc:USPSFirstClass!16407!US!-1:rk:1:pf:0" rel="nofollow">https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Double-Die-Superior-Facsimile-Of-The-Lincoln-Cent-Error/223298206438?hash=item33fd9c3ae6:g:sLgAAOSwSONcImcz:sc:USPSFirstClass!16407!US!-1:rk:1:pf:0</a></p><p>[ATTACH=full]865456[/ATTACH] </p><p>I am not an Indian cent expert, but i do believe some of the Indians he has listed are also counterfeits. </p><p>All the photos are not high res. and can not be blown up for real diagnostics. </p><p><br /></p><p>My point is that these coins are not only a violation of ebay policy, but ebay is violating federal law. As soon as I report it, they are "aware" of the problem. It does not take an expert to determine that a "facsimile" means counterfeit. </p><p>I believe Ebay needs to change their policy in regards to adhering to the Law.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EdThelorax, post: 3276717, member: 99854"]In order for our hobby to survive we must gain new collectors. When a new collector finds out they have been deceived, stolen from, ripped off, they may chose to not continue collecting. The hobby protection act: [url]https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=6ba90b1f402763bcb0388569596c3f4b&rgn=div5&view=text&node=16:1.0.1.3.28&idno=16[/url] "It shall be a violation of the Act and the regulations promulgated thereunder for a person to provide substantial assistance or support to any manufacturer, importer, or seller of imitation numismatic items, or to any manufacturer or importer of imitation political items, if that person knows or should have known that the manufacturer, importer, or seller is engaged in any practice that violates the Act and the regulations promulgated thereunder." Ebay violates this every single day. I understand that it is impossible to police every single listing. They do not have one single coin expert on their staff. I have used the "report item" then talked to a live rep. from their concierge program about specific counterfeits only to watch them sell days later. I was fortunate enough to be invited to join a private group that has contacts with ebay that does get counterfeits removed. The penalty to the seller for the first 5-10 violations is the listing gets removed. Eventually, they may have that account blocked. They then open another account, or buy an old one off of the dark web. This seller has been doing this for a long time. [url]https://www.ebay.com/sch/qmrpjamie/m.html?item=233042696997&hash=item36426d5b25%3Ag%3AoM0AAOSwPGtb8SU2%3Asc%3AUSPSFirstClass%2116407%21US%21-1%3Ark%3A5%3Apf%3A0&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562[/url] This listing will be removed soon but here it is anyway. 1955 Double Die-Superior Facsimile Of The Lincoln Cent Error ($350 obo) [url]https://www.ebay.com/itm/1955-Double-Die-Superior-Facsimile-Of-The-Lincoln-Cent-Error/223298206438?hash=item33fd9c3ae6:g:sLgAAOSwSONcImcz:sc:USPSFirstClass!16407!US!-1:rk:1:pf:0[/url] [ATTACH=full]865456[/ATTACH] I am not an Indian cent expert, but i do believe some of the Indians he has listed are also counterfeits. All the photos are not high res. and can not be blown up for real diagnostics. My point is that these coins are not only a violation of ebay policy, but ebay is violating federal law. As soon as I report it, they are "aware" of the problem. It does not take an expert to determine that a "facsimile" means counterfeit. I believe Ebay needs to change their policy in regards to adhering to the Law.[/QUOTE]
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