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<p>[QUOTE="bahabully, post: 1078133, member: 17555"]I have no idea how GSC has, or even if they have, created a following of informed collectors on the 'bay. My experience with them was that they have very good pictures and sell less than optimal items,,, 'especially' for the grade. I don't even look at their coins anymore,, if anything, I think that thier demonstrated premium on the 'bay only serves to prove Doug's point, in that coins values on the bay should not be trusted because inexperienced buyers tend to pay toooo much for nice pictures and the preception of reptuable dealers...... I fully agree with Doug there,,, that said, and even with this overpayment accepted as a given,,, I'd still bet graded coin to graded coin of equivalent eye appeal and quality, you'll find they average out cheaper on the 'bay... and my guess is that this delta in price range is likely to be approximate to the buyer premiums charged by auction house (HC and TT), or the premium that most dealers put on thier 'retail" price for thier stock....... and if you went further and only considered experienced collector purchases from the 'bay vs. HC or TT or dealer, than I'd bet my left wally that you'd find an even greater delta in price..... and I consider most folks who visit this site as experienced, or at least well on thier way, as demonstrated by thier motivation to read and learn about the hobby. An experienced collector who browses and targets coins on the 'bay can beat the pants off of HC or TT on many coins. I pulled s vdb cent's (now certified VF) for $300, eye blasting toners (certified) for 20 bucks, and common date teen cents in high bu for 40-50 bucks..... each of which is above average eye appeal and each of which would cost at least 100% more on HC or TT.... you just don't find rips on those sites imo,,, and rips on the 'bay are becoming ever more had to find also as more and more collectors make the 'bay thier 24-7 coin show.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="bahabully, post: 1078133, member: 17555"]I have no idea how GSC has, or even if they have, created a following of informed collectors on the 'bay. My experience with them was that they have very good pictures and sell less than optimal items,,, 'especially' for the grade. I don't even look at their coins anymore,, if anything, I think that thier demonstrated premium on the 'bay only serves to prove Doug's point, in that coins values on the bay should not be trusted because inexperienced buyers tend to pay toooo much for nice pictures and the preception of reptuable dealers...... I fully agree with Doug there,,, that said, and even with this overpayment accepted as a given,,, I'd still bet graded coin to graded coin of equivalent eye appeal and quality, you'll find they average out cheaper on the 'bay... and my guess is that this delta in price range is likely to be approximate to the buyer premiums charged by auction house (HC and TT), or the premium that most dealers put on thier 'retail" price for thier stock....... and if you went further and only considered experienced collector purchases from the 'bay vs. HC or TT or dealer, than I'd bet my left wally that you'd find an even greater delta in price..... and I consider most folks who visit this site as experienced, or at least well on thier way, as demonstrated by thier motivation to read and learn about the hobby. An experienced collector who browses and targets coins on the 'bay can beat the pants off of HC or TT on many coins. I pulled s vdb cent's (now certified VF) for $300, eye blasting toners (certified) for 20 bucks, and common date teen cents in high bu for 40-50 bucks..... each of which is above average eye appeal and each of which would cost at least 100% more on HC or TT.... you just don't find rips on those sites imo,,, and rips on the 'bay are becoming ever more had to find also as more and more collectors make the 'bay thier 24-7 coin show.[/QUOTE]
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