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<p>[QUOTE="EyeEatWheaties, post: 1077614, member: 26972"]Uh........ I don't view this thread as an argument. no one has argued that the facts that have been produced are wrong. Absolutely agreed that this is the internet and the opinions are worth what you paid for them .. ZERO.. </p><p><br /></p><p>All I was trying to say that on coin collecting boards I see a high amount of unsubstantiated opinions that were formed by yesterday, or experience from 10 years. Most boards talk about the here and now. It's helpful to know history so that it can be improved upon. yes / no?</p><p><br /></p><p>My point/opinin is that if advise is being given from someone who is relying on their experiences, that they should <b>be able and willing to back up </b>the advise with supporting factual information.</p><p><br /></p><p>For discussion purposes you are worried about fake coins in fake slabs. Why not enter the cert number into the look up services that TPG's offer? You have 45 days after the purchase to file a claim. thats plenty of time to do diagnostics. Furthermore presuming that these slabs don't get into the hands of dealers you trust, is to also presume that they do the diagnostics on every coin the get? and you know this how?</p><p><br /></p><p>See what I am getting at? I think you are more worried about the hassle of filing a dispute than you are of actually getting a counterfeit? I am just guessing here. Each venue TT HA and others serve a niche market, whether it be rarities or just super expensive coins. They don't churn the amount of coinage that eBay does. so regardless whether you are educated coin collector or not, whether you are a collector of rarities, or whether every coin you own is over 1k each. You can not deny, nor ignore that the best place, with the biggest selection, best average closing prices with sellers held to performance standards that you can talk t...., who are going to ship quick and who are going to go that extra mile to make you happy is eBay.</p><p><br /></p><p>As a test in prep for this thread, HA sent me a new user survey, I filled it out - it was not a check box survey - so I told them I wouldn't be able to pay, what are my options? DO you know that they have not answered me in 3 days? TT - I asked ahead if I bought if I bought 50 $6 items that they had for sale forthe shipping cost . I also asked whether there was any break on the $8 per lot on quantities. No answer! yet. I asked DL also how long I could take to pay. NO ANSWER.. Yesterday I asked an eBay seller if he would wait until Tuesday to get paid instead of the 72 hours as his listing states and he said sure, within 1 hr of my email..</p><p><br /></p><p>Do I need to post the emails and messages to back up the above?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>so tell me what are the VALID data points on those other sites? that the same coin on the average is going to cost more, that they don't answer emails, that they will charge excessive fees ? I am interested in learning something new about those sites comparatively....[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="EyeEatWheaties, post: 1077614, member: 26972"]Uh........ I don't view this thread as an argument. no one has argued that the facts that have been produced are wrong. Absolutely agreed that this is the internet and the opinions are worth what you paid for them .. ZERO.. All I was trying to say that on coin collecting boards I see a high amount of unsubstantiated opinions that were formed by yesterday, or experience from 10 years. Most boards talk about the here and now. It's helpful to know history so that it can be improved upon. yes / no? My point/opinin is that if advise is being given from someone who is relying on their experiences, that they should [B]be able and willing to back up [/B]the advise with supporting factual information. For discussion purposes you are worried about fake coins in fake slabs. Why not enter the cert number into the look up services that TPG's offer? You have 45 days after the purchase to file a claim. thats plenty of time to do diagnostics. Furthermore presuming that these slabs don't get into the hands of dealers you trust, is to also presume that they do the diagnostics on every coin the get? and you know this how? See what I am getting at? I think you are more worried about the hassle of filing a dispute than you are of actually getting a counterfeit? I am just guessing here. Each venue TT HA and others serve a niche market, whether it be rarities or just super expensive coins. They don't churn the amount of coinage that eBay does. so regardless whether you are educated coin collector or not, whether you are a collector of rarities, or whether every coin you own is over 1k each. You can not deny, nor ignore that the best place, with the biggest selection, best average closing prices with sellers held to performance standards that you can talk t...., who are going to ship quick and who are going to go that extra mile to make you happy is eBay. As a test in prep for this thread, HA sent me a new user survey, I filled it out - it was not a check box survey - so I told them I wouldn't be able to pay, what are my options? DO you know that they have not answered me in 3 days? TT - I asked ahead if I bought if I bought 50 $6 items that they had for sale forthe shipping cost . I also asked whether there was any break on the $8 per lot on quantities. No answer! yet. I asked DL also how long I could take to pay. NO ANSWER.. Yesterday I asked an eBay seller if he would wait until Tuesday to get paid instead of the 72 hours as his listing states and he said sure, within 1 hr of my email.. Do I need to post the emails and messages to back up the above? so tell me what are the VALID data points on those other sites? that the same coin on the average is going to cost more, that they don't answer emails, that they will charge excessive fees ? I am interested in learning something new about those sites comparatively....[/QUOTE]
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