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<p>[QUOTE="ToughCOINS, post: 3007068, member: 20480"]I would have sided with you as well, but not because you have the right to remove a coin from a sealed or temper-evident holder . . . you do not. On another day, you might well get a different verdict from eBay. Most importantly, you had a contract with the seller which you violated.</p><p><br /></p><p>You were fortunate, in that yours is a far less common, and a more specialized case than the vast majority. Because it was necessary to weigh the coin and / or examine its edge, eBay understood the need to remove it before deciding it was as described. Readers of your post should not get the impression that eBay would side with them in a more common situation where an issue over cleaning, spotting, damage, grade, or other issue determinable from the front and back of the coin was involved.</p><p><br /></p><p>You are also fortunate that you were able to provide convincing photographic evidence that the coin was one and the same, and appear to have done that without abusing the seller's time limit on returns. If you had done so after sufficient time had elapsed for you to submit the coin to and get an answer back from grading professionals, eBay might have considered that an abuse of the seller's return privelige.</p><p><br /></p><p>If a buyer wants to remove a coin before deciding to keep it, he / she should ALWAYS do the seller the courtesy of asking first, pointing out any identifiers that could be used to confirm the coin's identity. There have been perhaps a half dozen cases over the years where I asked or was asked for such permission, and it was granted every time. If denied however, one should return the coin, no questions asked.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is not a buyer's right to gamble with a seller's money and time, yet many out there decide it is their prerogative to send coins for grading and return them if they don't get a money-making grade, or return them if unable to quickly flip them for a profit. While you obviously did not have this in mind, I want to make it clear to others that might get the wrong impression . . . that would be flat out selfish, disrespectful and unethical.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="ToughCOINS, post: 3007068, member: 20480"]I would have sided with you as well, but not because you have the right to remove a coin from a sealed or temper-evident holder . . . you do not. On another day, you might well get a different verdict from eBay. Most importantly, you had a contract with the seller which you violated. You were fortunate, in that yours is a far less common, and a more specialized case than the vast majority. Because it was necessary to weigh the coin and / or examine its edge, eBay understood the need to remove it before deciding it was as described. Readers of your post should not get the impression that eBay would side with them in a more common situation where an issue over cleaning, spotting, damage, grade, or other issue determinable from the front and back of the coin was involved. You are also fortunate that you were able to provide convincing photographic evidence that the coin was one and the same, and appear to have done that without abusing the seller's time limit on returns. If you had done so after sufficient time had elapsed for you to submit the coin to and get an answer back from grading professionals, eBay might have considered that an abuse of the seller's return privelige. If a buyer wants to remove a coin before deciding to keep it, he / she should ALWAYS do the seller the courtesy of asking first, pointing out any identifiers that could be used to confirm the coin's identity. There have been perhaps a half dozen cases over the years where I asked or was asked for such permission, and it was granted every time. If denied however, one should return the coin, no questions asked. It is not a buyer's right to gamble with a seller's money and time, yet many out there decide it is their prerogative to send coins for grading and return them if they don't get a money-making grade, or return them if unable to quickly flip them for a profit. While you obviously did not have this in mind, I want to make it clear to others that might get the wrong impression . . . that would be flat out selfish, disrespectful and unethical.[/QUOTE]
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