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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;V. Kurt Bellman, post: 2685543, member: 71723&quot;]Jim, let me just spitball an alternate theory with no evidence. It&#039;s all the rage right now, if you read the papers. I&#039;m still VERY troubled by the very hazy history regarding the quantity of 09 VDB MPL&#039;s struck and/or surviving. To quote 2017 Mega Red, &quot;Proof mintage: 1,194; however, as few as 420 may have left the Mint, while the remainder were destroyed and the copper recoined without the V.D.B. initials.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Then in the fuller description below that we get this gem - &quot;The mintage of 1,194 Matte Proofs has been suggested by Kevin Flynn. Although Mint data supports this suggestion, surviving examples, including the number seen by certification services, suggest that far fewer ever reached numismatic channels.&quot;</p><p><br /></p><p>Or. Did. They?</p><p><br /></p><p>I don&#039;t want to put words into Larry Pelf&#039;s mouth, but what if there WERE a chronologically earlier 09 VDB MPL die and/or die pair (without the known markers) and the Mint got better at these the later. Further suppose a LIFO inventory, so that the vast majority of the known ones are the classically known type.</p><p><br /></p><p>Could there be a category of err, umm, ohh, &quot;lesser proofs&quot; of a different die?</p><p><br /></p><p>Before you dismiss this as madness, consider that Q. David Bowers himself suggested that the remaining VDB proofs were just put into circulation. Call them QDBVDB&#039;s?</p><p><br /></p><p>Point is - I see this &quot;one set of dies only&quot; meme somewhat less than 100% convincing, ESPECIALLY with this percentage of &quot;missing&quot; coins. The idea that 1194-420=774 of them just went POOF seems a wee bit too &quot;convenient&quot; for the Matte Proof Lincoln Cartel.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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