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<p>[QUOTE="d_lairson, post: 267928, member: 8441"]I keep talking... I tell myself I shouldn't but I keep doing it... I'm over the problem with my auction. The fact that it came in a first class envelope just hit my buttons...</p><p><br /></p><p>I think there is a concept that people are not quite getting here. It may be a buyer/seller mentality type thing. </p><p><br /></p><p>As a buyer I understand, and even accept that I will pay charges for shipping. I do not think it would be right for a seller to have to absorbe charges. BUT, and this is a big BUT, I feel that I should only have to pay acceptable charges (and I am backed by ebay rules on this matter). If the seller will only ship by priority mail, and useing delivery conf and insurance, and they say this in the auction, If I want the item, I will gladdly accept those conditions. What I should not have to pay for, IN SHIPPING CHARGES, is gas going to a fro from the post office and time spent in line at said post office. </p><p><br /></p><p>People on ebay want to buy something for as cheep as possible. ebay rules say that you must include overhead and gas/time at post office in the auction cost, not fees. If you know that you will spend $2.00 in gas/time then you item should be listed as at least $2.00. </p><p><br /></p><p>I see it from a sellers point of view, too. As a seller, you know that the only way you are going to sell something on ebay is to make it as inexpensive as possible. If you start including these fees in the auction costs, the amount you pay ebay will go up, your auctions will start higher, and most likely less people will bid on them. This is a flaw in the ebay system, but this is the cost of doing business on ebay. Trying to make up the cost of ebay fees in the shipping price of an item is wrong.</p><p><br /></p><p>I buy a lot of stuff mail order. I just now (while typeing) got a delivery via ups from whitman. I paid 4.95 s/h on the item. According to the UPS website it should have cost $8.95 for shipping. I'm sure that whitman has a bulk deal with UPS or something that lowers costs, but still I feel satisfied that I did not get ripped of on this shipping transaction.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm not saying that seller should eat the cost of shipping. They shoud only charge for shipping what it will cost for shipping (ie, boxes, supplies, postage, insurance, etc) and not try and cover costs that should be included in the item price as a means of avoiding ebay fees.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="d_lairson, post: 267928, member: 8441"]I keep talking... I tell myself I shouldn't but I keep doing it... I'm over the problem with my auction. The fact that it came in a first class envelope just hit my buttons... I think there is a concept that people are not quite getting here. It may be a buyer/seller mentality type thing. As a buyer I understand, and even accept that I will pay charges for shipping. I do not think it would be right for a seller to have to absorbe charges. BUT, and this is a big BUT, I feel that I should only have to pay acceptable charges (and I am backed by ebay rules on this matter). If the seller will only ship by priority mail, and useing delivery conf and insurance, and they say this in the auction, If I want the item, I will gladdly accept those conditions. What I should not have to pay for, IN SHIPPING CHARGES, is gas going to a fro from the post office and time spent in line at said post office. People on ebay want to buy something for as cheep as possible. ebay rules say that you must include overhead and gas/time at post office in the auction cost, not fees. If you know that you will spend $2.00 in gas/time then you item should be listed as at least $2.00. I see it from a sellers point of view, too. As a seller, you know that the only way you are going to sell something on ebay is to make it as inexpensive as possible. If you start including these fees in the auction costs, the amount you pay ebay will go up, your auctions will start higher, and most likely less people will bid on them. This is a flaw in the ebay system, but this is the cost of doing business on ebay. Trying to make up the cost of ebay fees in the shipping price of an item is wrong. I buy a lot of stuff mail order. I just now (while typeing) got a delivery via ups from whitman. I paid 4.95 s/h on the item. According to the UPS website it should have cost $8.95 for shipping. I'm sure that whitman has a bulk deal with UPS or something that lowers costs, but still I feel satisfied that I did not get ripped of on this shipping transaction. I'm not saying that seller should eat the cost of shipping. They shoud only charge for shipping what it will cost for shipping (ie, boxes, supplies, postage, insurance, etc) and not try and cover costs that should be included in the item price as a means of avoiding ebay fees.[/QUOTE]
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