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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;Marine1, post: 2501689, member: 80257&quot;]SuperD</p><p>The points you have made are right on the mark. I listen to both sides and understand these arguments with a caveat or two (always). First of all to define why we (experienced collectors, Dealers, Etc.) are even arguing, quibbling, caring about this toning (thing) is because a lot of the use to be purists are are crapping on the IDEA and HISTORY of numismatics for the sake of personal gain and ATing is the train their riding into town on (I like metaphors) and some of us/them . are a tad bit envious.</p><p>It can not and will not be made illegal nor should it IMO but if a lot of us agree that knowledge of what is AT/NT is the way to turn this swan into an ugly duck it will go the way of the Hula Hoop.</p><p>The knowledge is out there it just has to be organised and presented but like Politics there will be blowback when you ruffle feathers as we all know.</p><p>Dont mean to be dramatic but I have read the &quot;Art of War &quot; twice, and the first rule is &quot;know thy en----&quot; well you know!!</p><p>Anyway thats my four cents (inflation) and I am trying to keep in mind that THIS IS A HOBBY. phew tired Im going to bed</p><p>M1[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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