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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;-jeffB, post: 1939822, member: 27832&quot;]Yeah, the &quot;knockoff&quot; violin was a really sad story.</p><p><br /></p><p>I&#039;m conflicted about the &quot;don&#039;t return counterfeits&quot; policy. On the one hand, the seller has already demonstrated willingness to sell a counterfeit item, knowingly or unknowingly, and &quot;giving them a chance to try again&quot; seems like a bad thing. On the other hand, the buyer hasn&#039;t demonstrated <i>anything</i> (except the ability to identify a fake), and so giving <i>them</i> a chance to sell the coin on seems like a bad thing.</p><p><br /></p><p>It would be great if eBay required return to a third-party authenticator, which would then make a determination of authenticity, destroy fakes or turn them over to authorities, and return authentic coins to either the buyer or seller (not sure which would be more appropriate), apportioning costs somehow among the contesting parties. I have no idea how the details would work, though, and setting up such a facility for all the different fake-prone categories eBay covers would probably result in a bureaucracy bigger than eBay itself, prone to its own abuses and failures.</p><p><br /></p><p>I handle it by making my own judgement about the seller&#039;s intent. <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-up-that-fake-1920-s-walker-from-ebay.175499/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/follow-up-that-fake-1920-s-walker-from-ebay.175499/">In some cases, it&#039;s clear that the seller is knowingly selling fakes</a>, and I&#039;m happy to hang them out to dry with eBay&#039;s help. <a href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/you-lose-some-ebay-bad-picture-gambles.246889/" class="internalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="https://www.cointalk.com/threads/you-lose-some-ebay-bad-picture-gambles.246889/">In other cases, it&#039;s not at all clear to me</a>, and I leave eBay out of the loop. If I found myself in a situation where eBay told me not to return the coin, but I thought the seller had acted in good faith, I&#039;d return the fake at my own expense anyhow.</p><p><br /></p><p>Of course, I&#039;m far from infallible. I might falsely conclude that an unsuspecting seller is acting in bad faith, or I might falsely conclude that a scammer is acting in good faith. All I can do, like anyone, is try my best.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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