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<p>[QUOTE="dmott88, post: 1265872, member: 33129"]I agree Collector1966. </p><p><br /></p><p>IMRICH, according to Photograde 19th addition by James F. Ruddy Copyright 2005 clearly states VF-20: "All skirt lines will show. The body will be well-rounded and the BREAST WILL BE OUTLINED." </p><p><br /></p><p>According to PCGS Official Guide to Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection Second Edition VF20-35 "specimens will have flatness along the body from the head to the bottom of the leg. With the breast and leg feathers worn flat [but still visible] and the upper wing having only slight detail..." F-12/15: "The head, breast, and hand will be worn smooth, with flatness in the flag and foliage around the upper part of the body." ...... <a href="http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Walker/Grades" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Walker/Grades" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Walker/Grades</a> - you can clearly see both breasts outlined on these examples of VF.</p><p><br /></p><p>Also on the slab you showed above. There are thousands and thousands of slabbed Halves by any grading company. Not all two will match. No two graders will agree. No two coins will look the same. That one walker you showed could of been one of hundreds sent to PCGS for grading and given to a guy who's got 1 hour left before he went home for the day and simply just rushed through them. Some may say that PCGS is perfect and outstanding but any task delt to humans are bound to have a mistake. No one can be a perfect grader. At least one person will disagree with any coin. That's the beauty of Nusmatics.</p><p><br /></p><p>Truly, it all boils down to exactly that. "Market Grading." We can only try and grade appropriately and follow the major sources provided. Where I work we try our best to make sure our grading is fair and honest. We take pride in our quality and our 100% feedback. No, not everyone may agree with our grading standards but the majority seem to find our coins under-graded and priced right. We can only aspire to keep our customers content and saying "Wow, I think this coin's better than this grade" instead of "what the .... were they thinking?" </p><p>Example of a VF: <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-D-VF-Walker-Walking-Liberty-Silver-Half-Dollar-/130569401916?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1e668af63c" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-D-VF-Walker-Walking-Liberty-Silver-Half-Dollar-/130569401916?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1e668af63c" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-D-VF-Walker-Walking-Liberty-Silver-Half-Dollar-/130569401916?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1e668af63c</a> </p><p><br /></p><p>On the coins originally shown as "Rare Gem AU" there is simply nothing we can do but shake our heads and wonder why. My question is how can a dealer honestly portray them and display junk silver coins as Rare or even Gem AU? Gem AU isn't a grade any top tier or bottom tier certification company use nor are any breast remotely outlined on these two halves. It's worn completely and utterly flat. Ultimately, this cancels out any hope of a 'GEM AU' grade or even VF![/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="dmott88, post: 1265872, member: 33129"]I agree Collector1966. IMRICH, according to Photograde 19th addition by James F. Ruddy Copyright 2005 clearly states VF-20: "All skirt lines will show. The body will be well-rounded and the BREAST WILL BE OUTLINED." According to PCGS Official Guide to Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection Second Edition VF20-35 "specimens will have flatness along the body from the head to the bottom of the leg. With the breast and leg feathers worn flat [but still visible] and the upper wing having only slight detail..." F-12/15: "The head, breast, and hand will be worn smooth, with flatness in the flag and foliage around the upper part of the body." ...... [URL]http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Walker/Grades[/URL] - you can clearly see both breasts outlined on these examples of VF. Also on the slab you showed above. There are thousands and thousands of slabbed Halves by any grading company. Not all two will match. No two graders will agree. No two coins will look the same. That one walker you showed could of been one of hundreds sent to PCGS for grading and given to a guy who's got 1 hour left before he went home for the day and simply just rushed through them. Some may say that PCGS is perfect and outstanding but any task delt to humans are bound to have a mistake. No one can be a perfect grader. At least one person will disagree with any coin. That's the beauty of Nusmatics. Truly, it all boils down to exactly that. "Market Grading." We can only try and grade appropriately and follow the major sources provided. Where I work we try our best to make sure our grading is fair and honest. We take pride in our quality and our 100% feedback. No, not everyone may agree with our grading standards but the majority seem to find our coins under-graded and priced right. We can only aspire to keep our customers content and saying "Wow, I think this coin's better than this grade" instead of "what the .... were they thinking?" Example of a VF: [URL]http://www.ebay.com/itm/1943-D-VF-Walker-Walking-Liberty-Silver-Half-Dollar-/130569401916?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item1e668af63c[/URL] On the coins originally shown as "Rare Gem AU" there is simply nothing we can do but shake our heads and wonder why. My question is how can a dealer honestly portray them and display junk silver coins as Rare or even Gem AU? Gem AU isn't a grade any top tier or bottom tier certification company use nor are any breast remotely outlined on these two halves. It's worn completely and utterly flat. Ultimately, this cancels out any hope of a 'GEM AU' grade or even VF![/QUOTE]
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