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<p>[QUOTE="Endeavor, post: 2412901, member: 60292"]You bring up excellent points. In the case of an item that you have been in search of forever, I can see myself disregarding hidden bidders or whatever else the seller may be up to. Sometimes you really need that piece and the opportunities don't come around often.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also agree that the seller who is throwing in a shill bid to avoid paying for a reserve is not so bad. However, they aren't being completely transparent with bidders either in that they are artificially creating interest in their item by placing a bid. With that said I don't find that to be egregious so long as their "shill reserve" bid is the first bid.</p><p><br /></p><p>You are correct that shill bidding is something that is happening more than most people realize. I have good reason to believe that a good amount of top sellers are shill bidding. There is no way that some of their auctions consistently sell for more than competing auctions. Even when you take into account that they are more popular and have more followers it just doesn't make sense that their products always sell so much higher.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Endeavor, post: 2412901, member: 60292"]You bring up excellent points. In the case of an item that you have been in search of forever, I can see myself disregarding hidden bidders or whatever else the seller may be up to. Sometimes you really need that piece and the opportunities don't come around often. I also agree that the seller who is throwing in a shill bid to avoid paying for a reserve is not so bad. However, they aren't being completely transparent with bidders either in that they are artificially creating interest in their item by placing a bid. With that said I don't find that to be egregious so long as their "shill reserve" bid is the first bid. You are correct that shill bidding is something that is happening more than most people realize. I have good reason to believe that a good amount of top sellers are shill bidding. There is no way that some of their auctions consistently sell for more than competing auctions. Even when you take into account that they are more popular and have more followers it just doesn't make sense that their products always sell so much higher.[/QUOTE]
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