Ebay never fails...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Derrick Combs, Aug 11, 2020.

  1. Derrick Combs

    Derrick Combs Active Member

    So I recently ran across this proof set I thought I wanted to buy. Seller had 5.25 shipping so I checked other auctions looking for a combined deal. Find one but the seller doesn't respond to my question about combining before the auctions end. I wake up to his two replies. First he said he did. But then he comes back with the response that if I have a store or sell coins on ebay don't bid on his stuff... I replied that I wouldn't ever bid on any of his s*it Screenshot_20200811-182152_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20200811-182222_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20200811-182230_eBay.jpg
     
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  3. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    Why would that matter?
     
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  4. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    Weird... and unfriendly to boot. I think anyone can bid on anything?
     
  5. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    I can remember paper ads from way back that would state "No sales to dealers".
    This was just to fool folks into thinking the prices were wholesale or near it. Don't know how well this line worked on other folks, but it didn't on me. ;)

    Cal
     
  6. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Same thing happens at coin shows sometimes if they think you're trying to "pick" them. It's stupid and some people are just dumb. If you get your price it really doesn't matter if a dealer, wholesaler, auction house, or collector buys it
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I'd block him from by buying list and if I sold anything I wouldn't sell it to him.
     
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  8. hotwheelsearl

    hotwheelsearl Well-Known Member

    That’s bizarre. Why would it matter? Would he try to cancel the sale if you purchased? You could potentially leave negative feedback if you bought, paid, and he refused to ship.
     
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  9. Goldsayshi463

    Goldsayshi463 the person who says "hi" all the time

    That is mean person ( trust me I kno bad words like the “a”word but I would get banned)
     
  10. Goldsayshi463

    Goldsayshi463 the person who says "hi" all the time

    oh not mean, stupid is wat I meant
     
  11. Goldsayshi463

    Goldsayshi463 the person who says "hi" all the time

    oh I like dat as REVENGE!!!!!
     
  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I thought it kind of strange, but thought he was polite enough about it. I kind of get it, he does not want to sell to competition. I do the same in business.
     
  13. tennbjj

    tennbjj New Member

    Well thats smart, piss off a potential customer.
     
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  14. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Would be even dumber to cancel for that given that paypal keeps the fees now

    Why? It makes no difference,if you're selling to them you're getting the price you want for your item(s) anyways. All you're doing is costing yourself sales
     
  15. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Not true at all sir. Many, many scenarios to not sell to competitors.

    I will give you one. A competitor cannot keep up with an account seasonally. They approach you to sell to them seasonally. If I sell to them seasonally I may provide 12% of that customer's volume to them. If I refuse, then the competitor cannot keep up, the customer opens up a new bid for a new supplier, and I can win 100% of the business. I have successfully done this at least a few times over the years and grown business sizably.

    Saying it does nothing but cost you sales to not sell to a competitor is demonstrably false in MANY aspects of business sir. I can think of a few more scenarios but one is enough unless you want more.
     
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  16. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Bid processes for contracts and retail stores are entirely different animals. As a retail store it makes zero sense not to make the sale. You get the sale and they have to sell the same thing for a higher price
     
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  17. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    What about they want to lessen sellers of coins on Ebay, so do not wish to provide inventory for a potential competitor?

    I was responding to your assertion "in business", so that is where my example came from. But, I believe the above would make sense in a retail example. I could see a sports card store refusing to sell product to another sports card store down the street, because they do not want that store to compete and have similar levels of inventory. Many things go into business, completeness of inventory being one of them to make you a destination over rivals.
     
  18. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Any eBay seller that thinks they could reduce their competition by not selling to another at their given price is misguided. Contract bids are generally pretty limited, retail sales are not at all and that is especially true for online sales.

    Why? You're selling to them at retail, they then have to mark it up, your entire business could literally survive selling cards to the the store down the street if they wanted to keep sourcing inventory from your store.
     
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  19. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I buy product from other producers and mark it up and make a good profit. The reason they would want to buy from me is customer service, hedging available in one spot, and combined shipping. I am the exclusive supplier of a major QSR in the US with such a strategy. They could buy half of it cheaper elsewhere, but they buy from me for these reasons. Being a complete one stop shop so you become the preferred destination when shopping for that good has MAJOR VALUE.

    If you simply refuse to believe me that is your right, but there ARE very very good reasons companies would not want to sell to competitors even at retail, and those firms are NOT STUPID.
     
  20. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    You're confusing many different things here in your response. I'll simplify it to the point where it is stupid for any coin dealer to refuse a retail sale to another coin dealer.
     
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  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Your examples make sense. With eBay generic coin sales it makes much less sense to refuse a sale to a customer that doesn't raise any flags. There is a lot more that can go wrong (negative feedback, poor marketing from threads like this, loss of sales). Plus that generic proof set can be bought from almost any dealer/coin store for a fairly similar price. The original poster can go to his local shop and get them in bulk to resell if they really wanted to.
     
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