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<p>[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2075754, member: 46237"]Good advice. Taking a chance now and again can pay off, but it's really important to only buy within your comfort zone and take precautions.</p><p><br /></p><p>I took a risk on a listing last month. The pics were bad, but clear enough that I could tell it was a scarce variety and likely a condition rarity. I asked the seller for better pics. I was sent some low res scans which were hard to make out, but were better than the auction pics. The seller said he couldn't take better pics because of an equipment problem (red flag #1). Though I saw and asked about a couple apparent minor issues, the seller (who is a dealer with a shop by the way) assured me the surfaces were completely original with no issues significant enough to preclude grading. He has decent feedback so I take him at his word.</p><p><br /></p><p>We settle on a price, but then he asks me to go outside of eBay and that he will send me a PayPal invoice for "services". For those that don't know, if you pay for services via PayPal your transaction is not protected as it is with goods, so don't do it. Having the seller ask for this was red flag #2, but I still took a chance on the sale, insisting though that he do the transaction through eBay.</p><p><br /></p><p>Well I end up getting the coin and it has no original surfaces at all. Though significantly retoned, it had been whizzed to death; even the edge of the coin had been whizzed, completely obliterating the reeding and damaging the rims. This was hidden by the seller by photographing the coin in a holder that covered the edge.</p><p><br /></p><p>I inform the seller of the condition of the coin and he immediately offers to renegotiate for a significantly lower price (less than a third of what I paid), so obviously he knew about the condition before sending the coin. Luckily I was protected by eBay buyer protection as well as PayPal buyer protection because I insisted on doing the transaction through eBay, and I got a full refund quickly.</p><p><br /></p><p>I have taken similar risks in the past that have paid off, so I don't regret taking the risk. The biggest risk as a buyer with eBay is if you buy something you aren't familiar with and don't know enough to assess the condition properly. Make sure you understand how eBay and PayPal buyer protection works; you can always call their customer service and ask if you have a question. Make sure you read the auction description completely, understand the seller's return policy, and evaluate the pictures of the coin thoroughly before bidding. Also, if you are buying a problem coin, make sure you know the market value and don't pay a problem-free price.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Jaelus, post: 2075754, member: 46237"]Good advice. Taking a chance now and again can pay off, but it's really important to only buy within your comfort zone and take precautions. I took a risk on a listing last month. The pics were bad, but clear enough that I could tell it was a scarce variety and likely a condition rarity. I asked the seller for better pics. I was sent some low res scans which were hard to make out, but were better than the auction pics. The seller said he couldn't take better pics because of an equipment problem (red flag #1). Though I saw and asked about a couple apparent minor issues, the seller (who is a dealer with a shop by the way) assured me the surfaces were completely original with no issues significant enough to preclude grading. He has decent feedback so I take him at his word. We settle on a price, but then he asks me to go outside of eBay and that he will send me a PayPal invoice for "services". For those that don't know, if you pay for services via PayPal your transaction is not protected as it is with goods, so don't do it. Having the seller ask for this was red flag #2, but I still took a chance on the sale, insisting though that he do the transaction through eBay. Well I end up getting the coin and it has no original surfaces at all. Though significantly retoned, it had been whizzed to death; even the edge of the coin had been whizzed, completely obliterating the reeding and damaging the rims. This was hidden by the seller by photographing the coin in a holder that covered the edge. I inform the seller of the condition of the coin and he immediately offers to renegotiate for a significantly lower price (less than a third of what I paid), so obviously he knew about the condition before sending the coin. Luckily I was protected by eBay buyer protection as well as PayPal buyer protection because I insisted on doing the transaction through eBay, and I got a full refund quickly. I have taken similar risks in the past that have paid off, so I don't regret taking the risk. The biggest risk as a buyer with eBay is if you buy something you aren't familiar with and don't know enough to assess the condition properly. Make sure you understand how eBay and PayPal buyer protection works; you can always call their customer service and ask if you have a question. Make sure you read the auction description completely, understand the seller's return policy, and evaluate the pictures of the coin thoroughly before bidding. Also, if you are buying a problem coin, make sure you know the market value and don't pay a problem-free price.[/QUOTE]
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