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<p>[QUOTE="gbroke, post: 1399460, member: 22585"]There are certain sellers, one in particular, that really seem to get outrageous action on their coins. They are always raw. One of the reasons that they are able to do this is because of their imaging. There is a reason the expensive coins are raw. I believe it is because the coins are mostly problem coins. </p><p><br /></p><p>Here is a perfect example of how a picture can hide problems, like a cleaning.</p><p><br /></p><p>***EDIT: Please note that I purchased this coin from a seller who knew it was cleaned. I am just using this as an example. I paid "cleaned-coin" price for it. </p><p><br /></p><p>This is the same coin taken with different lighting techniques. </p><p>I am just throwing this out there to warn people that you shouldn't judge a coin by one picture. Ask the seller to send various pictures at different angles. Especially if it is an expensive coin. </p><p><br /></p><p>Which one do you think more people would bid on?</p><p><img src="http://memberitemcdn.thecoinnection.com/1000_ii8513814f654a666d086.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://memberitemcdn.thecoinnection.com/1000_ii8518254f654a70284a1.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>To be clear, I took these images. The only difference between the two was the position of the lights on the coin. Imaging software was only used for cropping.</p><p><br /></p><p>The first one uses a single direct light blasting on the coin. That is what will wash away luster. When the luster is washed away, the cleaning marks and that overall cleaned appearance go with it. Actually when it's a cleaned coin, i wouldn;t call it luster, but reflectivity or "shinyness".</p><p><br /></p><p>The second one uses multiple indirect lights. This brings out the luster of the coin, and shows those nasty little scratches.</p><p><br /></p><p>Vesss, I agree completely about toned coins. The darker ones being light up so much that they appear more colorful than they really are.</p><p>I think PCGS trueview is a heavy offender of this. At least with my limited experience on trueviews.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Here is the same luster situation with a toned coin.</p><p>Although this coin is high grade and uncleaned, just look at the difference lighting can make. As a toned coin buyer, I would be happy if a seller would have both types of images available. Luster is great to see, and very necessary when determining the eye apepal of a coin. At the same time, it's nice to get beyond it to see the details and the how the color sits on the coin. This also helps in determining an AT coin as well.</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://memberitemcdn.thecoinnection.com/1000_ii8653594f669b5768565.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><img src="http://memberitemcdn.thecoinnection.com/1000_ii8659694f669b60dff55.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="gbroke, post: 1399460, member: 22585"]There are certain sellers, one in particular, that really seem to get outrageous action on their coins. They are always raw. One of the reasons that they are able to do this is because of their imaging. There is a reason the expensive coins are raw. I believe it is because the coins are mostly problem coins. Here is a perfect example of how a picture can hide problems, like a cleaning. ***EDIT: Please note that I purchased this coin from a seller who knew it was cleaned. I am just using this as an example. I paid "cleaned-coin" price for it. This is the same coin taken with different lighting techniques. I am just throwing this out there to warn people that you shouldn't judge a coin by one picture. Ask the seller to send various pictures at different angles. Especially if it is an expensive coin. Which one do you think more people would bid on? [IMG]http://memberitemcdn.thecoinnection.com/1000_ii8513814f654a666d086.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://memberitemcdn.thecoinnection.com/1000_ii8518254f654a70284a1.jpg[/IMG] To be clear, I took these images. The only difference between the two was the position of the lights on the coin. Imaging software was only used for cropping. The first one uses a single direct light blasting on the coin. That is what will wash away luster. When the luster is washed away, the cleaning marks and that overall cleaned appearance go with it. Actually when it's a cleaned coin, i wouldn;t call it luster, but reflectivity or "shinyness". The second one uses multiple indirect lights. This brings out the luster of the coin, and shows those nasty little scratches. Vesss, I agree completely about toned coins. The darker ones being light up so much that they appear more colorful than they really are. I think PCGS trueview is a heavy offender of this. At least with my limited experience on trueviews. Here is the same luster situation with a toned coin. Although this coin is high grade and uncleaned, just look at the difference lighting can make. As a toned coin buyer, I would be happy if a seller would have both types of images available. Luster is great to see, and very necessary when determining the eye apepal of a coin. At the same time, it's nice to get beyond it to see the details and the how the color sits on the coin. This also helps in determining an AT coin as well. [IMG]http://memberitemcdn.thecoinnection.com/1000_ii8653594f669b5768565.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://memberitemcdn.thecoinnection.com/1000_ii8659694f669b60dff55.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
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