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<p>[QUOTE="clembo, post: 650309, member: 8033"]Wow Doug didn't mean to give you a grabber. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie2" alt=";)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" /> Someone was bound to say it and it was me that's all.</p><p><br /></p><p>Not selling on ebay was my own choice and I know it is a great place for exposure. I'm not selling that much anyway so it's no problem by me.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps I should clarify a bit here. There are many legitimate sellers on ebay and not all of them have the other means. It's the ones that do have the means that will start to leave.</p><p>Our website at work actually does a brisk business. Sure the site costs money but we more than make up for that with better prices and no ebay rules. We have our own rules, we're fair and we get a lot of repeat business from all over the country.</p><p>We move a lot of coins to other dealers on dealer networks. Again, we pay for those services but the money is always good. What we save in time alone drops our overall costs.</p><p><br /></p><p>We recently teamed up with another dealer/customer and just started a classified in one of the coin mags. Yep, we're dumping a lot of wheat cents. Bagged and ready to go. We send a bulk price list along with any order. A great way to move a lot of common stuff that I literally trip over at work. It's not all that expensive and keeps the clutter flowing.</p><p><br /></p><p>Then, of course, there is the fact that we are a good, old fashioned brick and mortar. We have other dealers stop in from all over. If they're in the area they set up to meet the boss and a lot of coins get sold.</p><p>We also have customers that will drive an hour or two having arranged a meeting with the boss and again a lot of coins get sold.</p><p><br /></p><p>Now granted my boss has been at this for 42 years and owns two shops, pays employees and has the brick and mortar overhead. He has paid his dues but has done it the right way.</p><p>Basically he's computer illiterate but does have a few employees that aren't. He's changed with the times.</p><p>This is why we do have a website and spend so much time on our computers. We get our share of paper money in as well. We have consigned notes to Lyn Knight on occasion.</p><p>Again it costs money but the return tends to be far greater than the amazing ebay.</p><p><br /></p><p>We still list on ebay but not as much as in the past. We even use it as a "test market" at times. We constantly consult completed auctions to help set prices. Ebay is GREAT in that aspect.</p><p><br /></p><p>We're also getting to the point though where listing a better coin is not even worthwhile. Perfect example was a week ago. We had an 18/17 D Buffalon nickel that came no where near reserve and reserve was under bid.</p><p>One phone call to a regular customer and it was sold. We were busy when he came in to pick it up and the boss always handles the deals with this guy. In the meantime I showed him a lot of lesser coins. He dropped another $250 on other coins as he had his lists with him and we barely even got into his lists.</p><p>One list was V nickels so I told him about the 12-S we just sent to NGC. Guess who we're calling when it gets back? It's as good as sold.</p><p><br /></p><p>So I'm rambling but there is a point here. There ARE other avenues besides ebay even for the smaller sellers. There are smaller sites with extremely low fees or free. I'm directing my boss to some of those as well. Why not? Put up a coin and if it doesn't sell it costs you nothing.</p><p><br /></p><p>Listen to dealers talk about ebay and it's not a discussion about how wonderful they are. If ebay wants to continue to alienate these people it's their option. You'll see less quality coins offered and more junk. It's already well on it's way there.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="clembo, post: 650309, member: 8033"]Wow Doug didn't mean to give you a grabber. ;) Someone was bound to say it and it was me that's all. Not selling on ebay was my own choice and I know it is a great place for exposure. I'm not selling that much anyway so it's no problem by me. Perhaps I should clarify a bit here. There are many legitimate sellers on ebay and not all of them have the other means. It's the ones that do have the means that will start to leave. Our website at work actually does a brisk business. Sure the site costs money but we more than make up for that with better prices and no ebay rules. We have our own rules, we're fair and we get a lot of repeat business from all over the country. We move a lot of coins to other dealers on dealer networks. Again, we pay for those services but the money is always good. What we save in time alone drops our overall costs. We recently teamed up with another dealer/customer and just started a classified in one of the coin mags. Yep, we're dumping a lot of wheat cents. Bagged and ready to go. We send a bulk price list along with any order. A great way to move a lot of common stuff that I literally trip over at work. It's not all that expensive and keeps the clutter flowing. Then, of course, there is the fact that we are a good, old fashioned brick and mortar. We have other dealers stop in from all over. If they're in the area they set up to meet the boss and a lot of coins get sold. We also have customers that will drive an hour or two having arranged a meeting with the boss and again a lot of coins get sold. Now granted my boss has been at this for 42 years and owns two shops, pays employees and has the brick and mortar overhead. He has paid his dues but has done it the right way. Basically he's computer illiterate but does have a few employees that aren't. He's changed with the times. This is why we do have a website and spend so much time on our computers. We get our share of paper money in as well. We have consigned notes to Lyn Knight on occasion. Again it costs money but the return tends to be far greater than the amazing ebay. We still list on ebay but not as much as in the past. We even use it as a "test market" at times. We constantly consult completed auctions to help set prices. Ebay is GREAT in that aspect. We're also getting to the point though where listing a better coin is not even worthwhile. Perfect example was a week ago. We had an 18/17 D Buffalon nickel that came no where near reserve and reserve was under bid. One phone call to a regular customer and it was sold. We were busy when he came in to pick it up and the boss always handles the deals with this guy. In the meantime I showed him a lot of lesser coins. He dropped another $250 on other coins as he had his lists with him and we barely even got into his lists. One list was V nickels so I told him about the 12-S we just sent to NGC. Guess who we're calling when it gets back? It's as good as sold. So I'm rambling but there is a point here. There ARE other avenues besides ebay even for the smaller sellers. There are smaller sites with extremely low fees or free. I'm directing my boss to some of those as well. Why not? Put up a coin and if it doesn't sell it costs you nothing. Listen to dealers talk about ebay and it's not a discussion about how wonderful they are. If ebay wants to continue to alienate these people it's their option. You'll see less quality coins offered and more junk. It's already well on it's way there.[/QUOTE]
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