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<p>[QUOTE="krispy, post: 649759, member: 19065"]First of all, everyone who has an active account on eBay, whether a Buyer or a Seller is getting this message. It's not really news but it needs to be read and fully understood the impact this is going to have on trading. <b>Alex</b> points to a good thing to consider. I immediately realised these same aspects myself upon reading the changes coming, by this October. </p><p><br /></p><p>I do not agree with the bolded statement eBay is foisting on Sellers that "<i><b>In fact, sellers have always been responsible for their items until they arrive safely in their customers' hands.</b></i>" This has NEVER been the case! It's absurd and worded in a very dubious manner. What constitutes "safely" and only signature required delivery services (at additional cost) will deliver a parcel "in (the) customers' hands". This means that no parcel can ever be left unsigned for if "safely in their customers' hands" is to mean what it says. Come on, it's written by morons. Does anyone expect that degree of service to start coming out of eBay transactions?</p><p><br /></p><p>Once the parcel is deposited in the security of any postal system or delivery service provider by the Seller, the Seller is wholly absolved of responsibility in delivery let alone safe delivery. If a Buyer waives the optional shipping insurance offered by the Seller (which many people think is unneccessary since you can call PayPal out on any Seller to reimburse you, that's NOT insurance, that's using PayPal as a menacing bully) and if anything along the way causes damage to the parcel, its contents or loss of the package, that is the Buyers error. Let me tell you, the USPS and UPS are barbarians when it comes to handling packages and auto sort facilities shread things daily. This has nothing to do with Seller responsibility. PayPal and their SNADs, or whatever they come up with next cannot replace true shipping insurance which every company offers to shippers, something a Buyer must pay for or waive at their own risk. I have always disclaimed postal and delivery mishandling while the item is in transit between the point that I deposit an item for delivery until it reaches the Buyer. I write this into the shipping terms of my auctions which resides next to an item description for every auction. It never causes a problem and nearly all Buyers waive insurance. Fortunately, few items are ever lost or damaged in transit, but it does happen and so do shipping delays. What's more, how does this statement affect International shipping? International Insurance doesn't cover the item once it leave the departing country unless you purchase through premium carriers. Doubt this is going to happen on eBay anytime soon either. International shipping is something I always disclaim to all buyers reading my auctions. I do not offer it and it is a waste of money as it doesn't cover items during their entire journey. </p><p><br /></p><p>If a package is insured and it or it's contents arrive damaged a claim can be filed with the shipping/delivery service for a loss. It is totally unacceptable for eBay to dictate otherwise and Buyers are assuming irresponsibly that they can utilize PayPal for issues outside the realm of the Sellers control or to further cause the Seller to incur greater cost and risk in dealing via eBay. </p><p><br /></p><p>I think these new updates will do exactly as the business news reports this week have been discussing that eBay's intentions are to move away from auction style listings and independent Sellers by implementing rules that squeeze out profitability until the Sellers capitulate or leave, and that eBay is favoring ever more the big Sellers with Stores and ability to conduct business like a major retailer might conduct online. There are so many problems with the new updates but I'd rather not turn CT into more of a defacto eBay rant forum than it already is becoming.</p><p><br /></p><p>These new updates from eBay are not all welcome and I suspect are steaming a lot of people this week.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="krispy, post: 649759, member: 19065"]First of all, everyone who has an active account on eBay, whether a Buyer or a Seller is getting this message. It's not really news but it needs to be read and fully understood the impact this is going to have on trading. [B]Alex[/B] points to a good thing to consider. I immediately realised these same aspects myself upon reading the changes coming, by this October. I do not agree with the bolded statement eBay is foisting on Sellers that "[I][B]In fact, sellers have always been responsible for their items until they arrive safely in their customers' hands.[/B][/I]" This has NEVER been the case! It's absurd and worded in a very dubious manner. What constitutes "safely" and only signature required delivery services (at additional cost) will deliver a parcel "in (the) customers' hands". This means that no parcel can ever be left unsigned for if "safely in their customers' hands" is to mean what it says. Come on, it's written by morons. Does anyone expect that degree of service to start coming out of eBay transactions? Once the parcel is deposited in the security of any postal system or delivery service provider by the Seller, the Seller is wholly absolved of responsibility in delivery let alone safe delivery. If a Buyer waives the optional shipping insurance offered by the Seller (which many people think is unneccessary since you can call PayPal out on any Seller to reimburse you, that's NOT insurance, that's using PayPal as a menacing bully) and if anything along the way causes damage to the parcel, its contents or loss of the package, that is the Buyers error. Let me tell you, the USPS and UPS are barbarians when it comes to handling packages and auto sort facilities shread things daily. This has nothing to do with Seller responsibility. PayPal and their SNADs, or whatever they come up with next cannot replace true shipping insurance which every company offers to shippers, something a Buyer must pay for or waive at their own risk. I have always disclaimed postal and delivery mishandling while the item is in transit between the point that I deposit an item for delivery until it reaches the Buyer. I write this into the shipping terms of my auctions which resides next to an item description for every auction. It never causes a problem and nearly all Buyers waive insurance. Fortunately, few items are ever lost or damaged in transit, but it does happen and so do shipping delays. What's more, how does this statement affect International shipping? International Insurance doesn't cover the item once it leave the departing country unless you purchase through premium carriers. Doubt this is going to happen on eBay anytime soon either. International shipping is something I always disclaim to all buyers reading my auctions. I do not offer it and it is a waste of money as it doesn't cover items during their entire journey. If a package is insured and it or it's contents arrive damaged a claim can be filed with the shipping/delivery service for a loss. It is totally unacceptable for eBay to dictate otherwise and Buyers are assuming irresponsibly that they can utilize PayPal for issues outside the realm of the Sellers control or to further cause the Seller to incur greater cost and risk in dealing via eBay. I think these new updates will do exactly as the business news reports this week have been discussing that eBay's intentions are to move away from auction style listings and independent Sellers by implementing rules that squeeze out profitability until the Sellers capitulate or leave, and that eBay is favoring ever more the big Sellers with Stores and ability to conduct business like a major retailer might conduct online. There are so many problems with the new updates but I'd rather not turn CT into more of a defacto eBay rant forum than it already is becoming. These new updates from eBay are not all welcome and I suspect are steaming a lot of people this week.[/QUOTE]
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