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<p>[QUOTE="BUncirculated, post: 1524052, member: 29581"]However, no fraud has been proven, and if it is proven, it's not PayPal's responsibility to go after the seller. </p><p><br /></p><p>You say you have experience in this matter, how much of that experience relates to sellers located in a foreign country? </p><p><br /></p><p>I have offered advice to the OP. I've expressed my opinion that he's out of luck since he went outside of eBay to complete the transaction, which is a clear violation of eBay's policy, which he agreed to abide by when he registered his account, as does everyone who registers an eBay account.</p><p><br /></p><p>In so far as "looking out for one another", had he posted before he bought, I'm quite sure that numerous CT members, myself included, would have advised against him buying this item, and for obvious reasons. </p><p><br /></p><p>Him coming here after the fact, at least 2 months as he stated his credit card company won't file a charge back because it had been 2 months since the purchase; is a little late for us to "lookout for one another". </p><p><br /></p><p>His actual best bet at this point, since the seller is in a foreign country, is to seek the advice of an attorney who specializes in internationl suits of this kind.</p><p><br /></p><p>I also don't see what I posted in reply to what you stated, as knit-picking, but rather correcting some of statements as they are, IMO, inaccurate and far reaching.</p><p><br /></p><p>For instance: You stated that PayPal should be sued as an accomplice to a fraud, because they earned a fee for the transaction. I stated, quite simply, that in order for PayPal to be an accomplice it would have to be proven they had knowledge the seller intended to commit a fraud, and did nothing to stop it, or even encouraged the fraud to take place.</p><p><br /></p><p>They've done neither, and short of someone at PayPal telling the buyer, "Yeah we knew this seller was going to defraud you but did nothing to stop them."; he would be hard pressed to prove what PayPal knew before the transaction was completed, or even during the transaction.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="BUncirculated, post: 1524052, member: 29581"]However, no fraud has been proven, and if it is proven, it's not PayPal's responsibility to go after the seller. You say you have experience in this matter, how much of that experience relates to sellers located in a foreign country? I have offered advice to the OP. I've expressed my opinion that he's out of luck since he went outside of eBay to complete the transaction, which is a clear violation of eBay's policy, which he agreed to abide by when he registered his account, as does everyone who registers an eBay account. In so far as "looking out for one another", had he posted before he bought, I'm quite sure that numerous CT members, myself included, would have advised against him buying this item, and for obvious reasons. Him coming here after the fact, at least 2 months as he stated his credit card company won't file a charge back because it had been 2 months since the purchase; is a little late for us to "lookout for one another". His actual best bet at this point, since the seller is in a foreign country, is to seek the advice of an attorney who specializes in internationl suits of this kind. I also don't see what I posted in reply to what you stated, as knit-picking, but rather correcting some of statements as they are, IMO, inaccurate and far reaching. For instance: You stated that PayPal should be sued as an accomplice to a fraud, because they earned a fee for the transaction. I stated, quite simply, that in order for PayPal to be an accomplice it would have to be proven they had knowledge the seller intended to commit a fraud, and did nothing to stop it, or even encouraged the fraud to take place. They've done neither, and short of someone at PayPal telling the buyer, "Yeah we knew this seller was going to defraud you but did nothing to stop them."; he would be hard pressed to prove what PayPal knew before the transaction was completed, or even during the transaction.[/QUOTE]
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