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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;chrisbauman, post: 287580, member: 9097&quot;]<b>A Few More To Add</b></p><p><br /></p><p>This was a nice topic and I enjoyed reading all the posts, but I would like to add a few more things about ebay and paypal.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>1) The feedback system that ebay has isn&#039;t all that great and there are many flaws.&nbsp;&nbsp; Every now and then I come across a buyer who doesn&#039;t pay and although I think it would justify a neutral or negative I&#039;m too nice of a guy to leave a neutral or negative in the first place, but what I always think about is what would happen if I were to leave a negative.&nbsp;&nbsp; The answer is that I would be pretty concerned that the buyer woud retaliate and leave me a negative also, so sometimes I really question the accuracy of ebay&#039;s feedback system because I feel that sellers and buyers alike are always going to be afraid to leave negative fb in fear of retaliation and therefore I question just how accurate the fb scores really are.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>2) Feedback extortion- someone can grab you by the b...ls anytime they want if you have a 100% fb and basically get you to bend over backwards knowing full well that unless you kiss their as...&nbsp; you will be afraid of that negative fb.&nbsp; &nbsp; Sure there are many times where it would be justified like if you sold a coin and it was circ and then advertised it as unc, but suppose if you knew you shipped a coin to a foreign country and someone claims they didn&#039;t receive it when you know full well you did ship it, but there is no tracking to confirm it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Well you know most likely the person did receive it and they are just looking for a free hand out, but you want to keep that 100% fb and the buyer knows it, so you swallow your pride and refund his money.&nbsp; In other words, ebay&#039;s feedback system opens the doors for people to push sellers around with no legitimate reason because everyone knows ebay sellers want to keep their fb score high as possible.&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>3)&nbsp; I do see why sellers are hesititant to take paypal because I personaly have a close relative who sells on ebay quite frequently and I&#039;ve heard too many stories where buyers have filed fraudulent paypal claims.&nbsp;&nbsp; For example, he sold xboxs a couple of years ago and with every xbox he was packaging a hot game along with it.&nbsp; Well his cost for the xbox 360 was like $300 and the cost of the game was like $50.&nbsp; &nbsp; These aren&#039;t exact numbers, but this should get the point across.&nbsp; &nbsp; Ok, xbox 360&#039;s were going for around $600 at the time and he sold this xbox 360 and the hot game for like $700.&nbsp;&nbsp; The buyer claimed that the game didn&#039;t work and intitially wanted a full refund (lol).&nbsp; &nbsp; Now my relative of course is scared shi....less and to make a long story short the buyer and he ended up agreeing on a $200 refund for a game that cost $50.&nbsp;&nbsp; The real premium was built into the xbox 360 and the game was only selling for $20 or $30 over retail on ebay, so the value of the game was only $70 or $80, but my relative felt he didn&#039;t have a choice but to accept the minimum $200 settlement out of fear that paypal would totally side with the buyer and refund the full $700.&nbsp; &nbsp; Of course, the game probably worked and the person was looking for a free ride, but it just goes to show the risks you endure if you accept paypal from clowns looking for free handouts.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p><br /></p><p>4) The paypal seller agreement is so long and when user agreemetns are that long I usually figure they are there to fully protect the company that wrote the agreement and to screw the abider of the agreement over.&nbsp;&nbsp; As a previous poster mentioned there are many criteria that one has to meet to qualifty for the seller protection and as for the buyer protection well I guess it depends on the dollar amount.&nbsp;&nbsp; The way I look at it is if it is under $100 and I get taken I won&#039;t lose sleep over it, but I ask myself what are the odds of getting taken from someone in the first place that has a 100+ fb with a 99.7% or better reading??? Probably about 1 in 1000, so if I buy a 1000 products on ebay over my lifetime for under $100 I guess I would expect to maybe get taken once and I would be out $60, $70, or $80 bucks.&nbsp; NO big deal, but when I consider that sellers who don&#039;t take paypal can afford to sell a little less with their buy it nows because they don&#039;t incur the paypal fees then I look at the overall picture and say to myself that I probably saved this much and probably alot more from buying from sellers who only took checks over the years, so this loss of $60 or $70 was just an indirect cost of saving a little more from buyers over the years who only take checks.&nbsp; Now if we are talking about an item&nbsp; over $1000 then I could see where paypal would be a plus for me, but&nbsp; if I were to buy something for $1500 that the seller misrepresented there are no guarantees that paypal will side with me anyways.&nbsp; Furthermore, if someone were to skip town with my $1500 then this is where I could really see paypal being a plus, but number one I would never spend this kind of money in the first place on something from someone I didn&#039;t know&nbsp; unless their feedback was something like 500 or more with no negatives or neutrals.&nbsp; If this were the case you then have to ask yourself what are the odds of someone with this kind of fb skipping town anyways??[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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