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<p>[QUOTE="imrich, post: 2849208, member: 22331"]Your "actual value" amounts are questionable. Where did you derive the values? I use archives/TPG-values!</p><p><br /></p><p>In the last week I've bid on 4 competitive auctions with an average of ~25 bids, for top tier TPG certified scarce coins (3 tough date/grade Indian Gold half-eagles, 1 tough date PCGS/CAC MS66 FB Mercury). I won all 4 by a $5-$10 greater bid than my nearest competitor, at an average price ~30% below the past market values.</p><p><br /></p><p>I believe the majority of bidders really believe the "fantasy" bid values published in C.D.N documents. I'm to understand many Dealers are shaking their heads wondering "what are they thinking" believing the average dealer can use CAC bid values as a basis for buy prices.</p><p><br /></p><p>I'm reasonably certain that the average realistic dealer isn't using C.D.N. bid values to purchase, but if you are, I understand your problem. I've been told that numerous dealers have, as you, expressed their concerns. As an aggressive friend of mine says: "who cares about the 99 out of 100 who don't approve, I'm just looking for the 1 who does"! I guess if one can publish their best found value as an average basis, only the courts can determine legality, as these documents are merely price guides.</p><p><br /></p><p>I don't believe you'll receive too many complaints from your "significant other" about your hobby investments, which may have a benefit that offsets your auction losses.</p><p><br /></p><p>JMHO[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="imrich, post: 2849208, member: 22331"]Your "actual value" amounts are questionable. Where did you derive the values? I use archives/TPG-values! In the last week I've bid on 4 competitive auctions with an average of ~25 bids, for top tier TPG certified scarce coins (3 tough date/grade Indian Gold half-eagles, 1 tough date PCGS/CAC MS66 FB Mercury). I won all 4 by a $5-$10 greater bid than my nearest competitor, at an average price ~30% below the past market values. I believe the majority of bidders really believe the "fantasy" bid values published in C.D.N documents. I'm to understand many Dealers are shaking their heads wondering "what are they thinking" believing the average dealer can use CAC bid values as a basis for buy prices. I'm reasonably certain that the average realistic dealer isn't using C.D.N. bid values to purchase, but if you are, I understand your problem. I've been told that numerous dealers have, as you, expressed their concerns. As an aggressive friend of mine says: "who cares about the 99 out of 100 who don't approve, I'm just looking for the 1 who does"! I guess if one can publish their best found value as an average basis, only the courts can determine legality, as these documents are merely price guides. I don't believe you'll receive too many complaints from your "significant other" about your hobby investments, which may have a benefit that offsets your auction losses. JMHO[/QUOTE]
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