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<p>[QUOTE="Bartelmoose, post: 758035, member: 21313"]<b>The UCC is applicable to eBay auctions</b></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p> </p><p>I guess you failed to see this posted in the above-referenced eBay site: </p><p> </p><p>"nothing in this agreement shall modify the governing provisions of California Commercial Code § 2401(2) and Uniform Commercial Code § 2-401(2)."</p><p> </p><p>See also <a href="http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaybuy.pdf" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaybuy.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaybuy.pdf</a> which says: </p><p> </p><p><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans">"If accepted, a high bid becomes an enforceable contract under the Uniform Commercial Code. By law, you are </font></font></font></font><b><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965">not </span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></b><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2">permitted to negotiate further after the auction closes. </font></font></font></font><b><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965">What you agreed to is what you agreed to. </span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></b><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2">If you have </font></font></font></font><b><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965">any </span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></b><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2">questions about shipping and handling charges, delivery times, or the item condition/history/features, or whatever, </font></font></font></font><b><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965">always ask before you bid!</span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></b></p><p> </p><p><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><b>If you attempt to "warn" others about perceived "problems" in any other </b></font></font></font></font></span><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #423eff"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #423eff"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #423eff"><b>eBay </b></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><b>auctions, it is </b></font></font></font></font><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><b>you </b></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><b>that will get hung out to dry. Under both eBay rules and the </b><b>Uniform Commercial Code, these are actionable offenses collectively known as </b></font></font></font></font><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><b>auction interference</b></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000">. Same goes for posting </span></font></font></font></font><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><b>anything </b></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><span style="color: #000000">specific about another </span><b>eBay member in </b></font></font></font></font><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><b>any </b></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><b>public forum. Or for tampering with another auction by</b></font></font></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></p><p style="text-align: left"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><font size="2"><font face="StoneSans"><b>making nonserious or ultimately retracted bids."</b></font></font></font></font></p><p></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font></p><p><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"><font face="StoneSans-Bold"><font size="1"><span style="color: #005965"></span></font></font></span></font></font></span></font></font>[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Bartelmoose, post: 758035, member: 21313"][b]The UCC is applicable to eBay auctions[/b] I guess you failed to see this posted in the above-referenced eBay site: "nothing in this agreement shall modify the governing provisions of California Commercial Code § 2401(2) and Uniform Commercial Code § 2-401(2)." See also [URL]http://www.tinaja.com/glib/ebaybuy.pdf[/URL] which says: [SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans]"If accepted, a high bid becomes an enforceable contract under the Uniform Commercial Code. By law, you are [/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][B][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965]not [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2]permitted to negotiate further after the auction closes. [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965]What you agreed to is what you agreed to. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2]If you have [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965]any [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2]questions about shipping and handling charges, delivery times, or the item condition/history/features, or whatever, [/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][B][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965]always ask before you bid![/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/B] [FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][B]If you attempt to "warn" others about perceived "problems" in any other [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#423eff][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#423eff][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#423eff][B]eBay [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][B]auctions, it is [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][B]you [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][B]that will get hung out to dry. Under both eBay rules and the [/B][B]Uniform Commercial Code, these are actionable offenses collectively known as [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][B]auction interference[/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]. Same goes for posting [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][B]anything [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][COLOR=#000000]specific about another [/COLOR][B]eBay member in [/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][FONT=StoneSans-Bold][SIZE=1][COLOR=#005965][B]any [/B][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][B]public forum. Or for tampering with another auction by[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT] [LEFT][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][SIZE=2][FONT=StoneSans][B]making nonserious or ultimately retracted bids."[/B][/FONT][/SIZE][/FONT][/SIZE][/LEFT] [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]
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