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<p>[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 628924, member: 5629"]I'm gonna tear apart some sections of your reply to show you a point here:</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Do these people contact the legal authorities about the situation? Are you notifying the Secret Service of counterfeit coins being sold in the values of up to tens of thousands of dollars, or more? Do you have a preponderance of evidence to prove that wrong doing is in legal fact occurring?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Are you contacting the Attorney Generals' Offices of the State of California, as well as your respective State and the Office of the Attorney General of the United States of America? Are you providing them with a preponderance of evidence to show that eBay has, in fact, collaborated directly and individually with these sellers to fraud the general public?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Again, are these people notifying the Federal Trade Commission in complaint of the supposed fact that eBay is acting fraudulently against the general public, and providing proof or evidences of such activity?</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Consider for a moment a zero tolerance policy. It would simply take an unverified complaint from a person or group of persons with some vendetta against the seller to remove said seller from his venue and source of income. Misuse and abuse are very real, and should always be considered. Wyoming has an interesting clause in its Constitution that includes, "Arbitrary and absolute powers do not exist in a Republic..." Such power is feared by many when it is held by the State, and rightfully so feared by many when held by any private entity. Something to think about.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Read the sections above again. "The case against eBay" is as easy as supplying the above referenced items of evidence to the proper authorities. Doesn't seem as easy anymore when you consider that, now does it?</p><p><br /></p><p>The point is, it is not as easy as it may first appear to take such a case victoriously into court. What you are suggesting is that eBay is committing a crime somewhere. And if not a crime, then they are somehow conducting their business in such a way as to be actionable by parties that have been materially injured by eBay's business practices.</p><p><br /></p><p>Concrete factual evidence is needed to convict eBay of any actual crime. A lesser amount, but still solid amount, of evidence is needed to even make a claim of tort against eBay for their business practices. And if people continue to outright <b>refuse</b> to contact the proper authorities with information and facts when the problems occur, then nothing ever will be done if eBay truly is breaking some law or is open to any action of tort.</p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p><br /></p><p>Perhaps, that is because they are <b>not</b> the police. You want policing, contact the local police department of the fraudulent sellers that have scammed you out of money, and file a report.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="NPCoin, post: 628924, member: 5629"]I'm gonna tear apart some sections of your reply to show you a point here: Do these people contact the legal authorities about the situation? Are you notifying the Secret Service of counterfeit coins being sold in the values of up to tens of thousands of dollars, or more? Do you have a preponderance of evidence to prove that wrong doing is in legal fact occurring? Are you contacting the Attorney Generals' Offices of the State of California, as well as your respective State and the Office of the Attorney General of the United States of America? Are you providing them with a preponderance of evidence to show that eBay has, in fact, collaborated directly and individually with these sellers to fraud the general public? Again, are these people notifying the Federal Trade Commission in complaint of the supposed fact that eBay is acting fraudulently against the general public, and providing proof or evidences of such activity? Consider for a moment a zero tolerance policy. It would simply take an unverified complaint from a person or group of persons with some vendetta against the seller to remove said seller from his venue and source of income. Misuse and abuse are very real, and should always be considered. Wyoming has an interesting clause in its Constitution that includes, "Arbitrary and absolute powers do not exist in a Republic..." Such power is feared by many when it is held by the State, and rightfully so feared by many when held by any private entity. Something to think about. Read the sections above again. "The case against eBay" is as easy as supplying the above referenced items of evidence to the proper authorities. Doesn't seem as easy anymore when you consider that, now does it? The point is, it is not as easy as it may first appear to take such a case victoriously into court. What you are suggesting is that eBay is committing a crime somewhere. And if not a crime, then they are somehow conducting their business in such a way as to be actionable by parties that have been materially injured by eBay's business practices. Concrete factual evidence is needed to convict eBay of any actual crime. A lesser amount, but still solid amount, of evidence is needed to even make a claim of tort against eBay for their business practices. And if people continue to outright [B]refuse[/B] to contact the proper authorities with information and facts when the problems occur, then nothing ever will be done if eBay truly is breaking some law or is open to any action of tort. Perhaps, that is because they are [B]not[/B] the police. You want policing, contact the local police department of the fraudulent sellers that have scammed you out of money, and file a report.[/QUOTE]
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