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Message:: [QUOTE="Marshall, post: 2540306, member: 21705"]I'll ID it for you and take you through the steps I use. 1. Second Letter style with more pronounced serifs on the L and Es. This eliminates obverses 1 - 6. 2. Style 1 hair without the extra curl behind the shoulder. This eliminates obverses 20 - 34. 3. Small 8. This eliminates obverses 7 - 10 and confirms elimination of 1 - 6. 4. Obverse 11 date is too widely spaced for a match. 5. Obverse 12 8 is too distant from bust. 6. Obverse 13  2nd Highest wave of hair  is left of upright of E. Doesn't match. 7. Obverse 14 looks close, but IB looks a little further apart than on yours. But we'll leave it as a possibility. 8. Obverse 15 spacing of date and LIBERTY are both too wide for a match. 9. Obverse 16 - 7 between dentils. Not a match. 10 Obverse 17 - Date widely spaced. Not a match. 11. Obverse 18 - Looks like a match. Hair on both look unfinished. 12. Obverse 19 - Also looks like a match. Need to look at the differences. 13 Obverse 20 - 1 too close to hair. Not a match. So back to 18 and 19. Flattened knob at 9 on obverse 19. Nope Also the under loop is thinner as is Obverse 18. So this should be S-162. the only reverse pairing is Reverse O. That looks right. S-162 is an R4- in Breen, but has been called R4 at times. Nice find.[/QUOTE]