Log in or Sign up
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
Early Copper Experts - Help me grade this 1808 Classic Head Cent
>
Reply to Thread
Message:
<p>[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2561682, member: 1892"]It seems intuitive to me that the obverse weakness is a direct function of the reverse crack, which had to have sunk or warped somewhat albeit not becoming an actual retained cud. This is evidenced by the fact that some - but not all - examples with this weakness show misalignment, meaning the die was removed and misaligned at one point, and a full retained cud would have dropped away then. Perhaps it was removed from the press for the specific purpose of determining if it was still in one piece, and returned to service when it was found to be so. A survey of die states to misaligned examples - I didn't look at enough of them for this post to have drawn conclusions - might shed some light.</p><p><br /></p><p><i>Fascinating</i> coin, lovely planchet, probably mid-VF by the "usual" grading rules. An EAC grade is out of scope for me. <img src="styles/default/xenforo/clear.png" class="mceSmilieSprite mceSmilie1" alt=":)" unselectable="on" unselectable="on" />[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="SuperDave, post: 2561682, member: 1892"]It seems intuitive to me that the obverse weakness is a direct function of the reverse crack, which had to have sunk or warped somewhat albeit not becoming an actual retained cud. This is evidenced by the fact that some - but not all - examples with this weakness show misalignment, meaning the die was removed and misaligned at one point, and a full retained cud would have dropped away then. Perhaps it was removed from the press for the specific purpose of determining if it was still in one piece, and returned to service when it was found to be so. A survey of die states to misaligned examples - I didn't look at enough of them for this post to have drawn conclusions - might shed some light. [I]Fascinating[/I] coin, lovely planchet, probably mid-VF by the "usual" grading rules. An EAC grade is out of scope for me. :)[/QUOTE]
Your name or email address:
Do you already have an account?
No, create an account now.
Yes, my password is:
Forgot your password?
Stay logged in
Coin Talk
Home
Forums
>
Coin Forums
>
US Coins Forum
>
Early Copper Experts - Help me grade this 1808 Classic Head Cent
>
Home
Home
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Activity
Recent Posts
Forums
Forums
Quick Links
Search Forums
Recent Posts
Competitions
Competitions
Quick Links
Competition Index
Rules, Terms & Conditions
Gallery
Gallery
Quick Links
Search Media
New Media
Showcase
Showcase
Quick Links
Search Items
Most Active Members
New Items
Directory
Directory
Quick Links
Directory Home
New Listings
Members
Members
Quick Links
Notable Members
Current Visitors
Recent Activity
New Profile Posts
Sponsors
Menu
Search
Search titles only
Posted by Member:
Separate names with a comma.
Newer Than:
Search this thread only
Search this forum only
Display results as threads
Useful Searches
Recent Posts
More...