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<p>[QUOTE="Dionysos, post: 2020207, member: 44191"]Since I was the person who contacted Charles about that coin I should elaborate a little about my concerns I guess. I was, and I'm still, not sure about its authenticity.</p><p><br /></p><p>First thing that attracted my attention, as Bing pointed out, was the surface "roughness" (pics not clear enough to see if the metal "lumps" are benign or not imo). Started researching around among fakes and found the following...</p><p><br /></p><p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/peninsule/Clipboard02-3.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Apparently of the same dies and, looking only at the reverse, exact same centering and flan shape.</p><p><br /></p><p>Researching some more I found several others, some of which combines either the obv. or rev. with other dies...</p><p><br /></p><p>Reverse...</p><p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/peninsule/ObvRev-sm.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Obverse...</p><p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/peninsule/rg.jpg" class="bbCodeImage wysiwygImage" alt="" unselectable="on" /></p><p><br /></p><p>Now, the biggest problem here for me is... Are these dies modern or ancient ? Reid Goldsborough, on his site (where the last example came from), suggest that they are modern...</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://athenianowlcoins.reidgold.com/forgeries.html" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://athenianowlcoins.reidgold.com/forgeries.html" rel="nofollow">http://athenianowlcoins.reidgold.com/forgeries.html</a></p><p><br /></p><p>On FAC, where the 2nd example came from, it is said that the coin in question is a "...cast forgery made with molds created using the lost wax method" (derived from a "genuine coin")...</p><p><br /></p><p><a href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-915" target="_blank" class="externalLink ProxyLink" data-proxy-href="http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-915" rel="nofollow">http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-915</a></p><p><br /></p><p>Then there's the light weight which, alone, would not be that troubling... But combined with the other evidences ???[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>
[QUOTE="Dionysos, post: 2020207, member: 44191"]Since I was the person who contacted Charles about that coin I should elaborate a little about my concerns I guess. I was, and I'm still, not sure about its authenticity. First thing that attracted my attention, as Bing pointed out, was the surface "roughness" (pics not clear enough to see if the metal "lumps" are benign or not imo). Started researching around among fakes and found the following... [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/peninsule/Clipboard02-3.jpg[/IMG] Apparently of the same dies and, looking only at the reverse, exact same centering and flan shape. Researching some more I found several others, some of which combines either the obv. or rev. with other dies... Reverse... [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/peninsule/ObvRev-sm.jpg[/IMG] Obverse... [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/peninsule/rg.jpg[/IMG] Now, the biggest problem here for me is... Are these dies modern or ancient ? Reid Goldsborough, on his site (where the last example came from), suggest that they are modern... [url]http://athenianowlcoins.reidgold.com/forgeries.html[/url] On FAC, where the 2nd example came from, it is said that the coin in question is a "...cast forgery made with molds created using the lost wax method" (derived from a "genuine coin")... [url]http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-915[/url] Then there's the light weight which, alone, would not be that troubling... But combined with the other evidences ???[/QUOTE]
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