Early Antony and Octavian denarius struck in 41 BCE

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Sallent, Apr 11, 2019.

  1. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    It's been a slow year for me....4 months in and only 4 coins acquired. ButI feel like I've matured collection wise, and I'm no longer a newbie buying just to buy because I don't have too many coins. Rather, my tastes are a little more specific and I prefer to wait for something really special.

    Here's my latest offering to this forum:

    I have a Mark Antony Denarius, but just not a portrait one :(

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    And I have an Augustus denarius, just not an Octavian denarius (before he was emperor) :depressed:

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    I know what I want, a special coin with the portrait of Octavian before he was emperor, and one of Mark Antony with this portrait. I wonder, oh how I wonder, how I'm going to accomplish that. Oh, what's this?

    Killing two birds with one stone!

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    Isn't it a beauty?


    89497q00.jpg AR Denarius
    Mark Antony and Octavian
    Traveling military mint, or possibly Ephesus mint
    3.467g, 19.5mm
    Spring - Early summer 41 B.C.
    Obverse M ANT IMP AVG III VIR R P C M BARBAT Q P, bare head of Antony right
    Reverse CAESAR IMP PONT III VIR R P C, bare beardless head of Octavian right
    Ex: Errett Bishop Collection
    Crawford 517/2, Sydenham 1181, BMCRR East 103, Sear CRI 243, RSC I Mark Antony and Augustus 8, SRCV I 1504


    Ok, so it's less that perfect. There's a banker's mark under Mark Antony's chin, some scratches, toning, etc., but let's look at the positive and endearing things this coin has to offer. Namely, the price. because it is less than perfect my bank account did not take a major hit. :greedy: Also, the portraits are well centered and the legends are all there. And unlike later issues that cost more $$$, this early issue was also within my reach because of the less than realistic Octavian portrait (the celators clearly knew what Antony looked like but had never seen Octavian). So all in all, I think it was a good acquisition in a year that's all about quality of acquisition over quantity.

    Here's a Wildwinds specimen for reference:

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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice @Sallent. I would love one of these, but I've put my buying on hold for a while while I try to cull my herd.
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Well done Oz! Very nice. Honestly, until you pointed out the bankers mark, I totally missed it. (I like banker's marks, they add character.)

    Congrats on the super find! Looks great!

    Good to see you back, @Sallent !

    Here is mine, similar:

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    RImp Antony-Octavian AR Denarius 41 BCE 3.65g 18.7mm Military mint Syria star Craw 528-2a Sear 1507
     
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  5. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    A wonderful pickup @Sallent . Congrats!
     
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  6. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Great coin @Sallent. Was missing your posts, glad to see you are back.
     
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great coin, much better than mine.

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    Mark Antony and Octavian (41 B.C.)
    AR Denarius
    M. Barbatius Pollio, quaestor pro praetore
    O: Bare head of Mark Antony right.
    R: Bare head of Octavian right, wearing slight beard.
    Ephesus mint, Spring-early summer 41 B.C.
    3.5g
    20mm
    Crawford 517/2; CRI 243; Sydenham 1181
     
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  8. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    Nice addition, Octavian has the worst cauliflower ear I have ever seen on a coin ;)
     
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  9. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ...yeah ole buddy big O..nice choice coins there!...good to see ya back..(wow, i just bought tonite a telescope and believe it or not, while i was checking it out, i thought of you and your mobile fone one :p)
     
  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Congrats on your new telescope. This is a great time of year to watch Jupiter and Saturn, as well as the Orion nebula, Pleiades star cluster, and Venus just before sunrise. Can't wait to see some images of your scope. Congrats.
     
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  11. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    You warned us you wouldn't be buying as much at the beginning of the year. But man, I thought you were just BSING!
    Glad to have you and your bird smashing sense of humor back (even if I do love me some birdies).
    But what a way to show up! I've wanted one of them for some time. And I really like bankers marks, so long as they don't touch the portrait nor distract. Fantastic acquisition!
    Here's my po boy, no portraits please, quiny version:
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    Marc Antony & Octavian

    AR Quinarius. Military mint moving with Octavian, 39 BC. Head of Concordia right, wearing diadem and veil, III VIR R P C around / Two hands clasped around caduceus, M ANTON C CAESAR around. Crawford 529/4b
     
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  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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