Early Alexandrian Follis of Galerius as Caesar

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I seem to have developed a strong liking for the Folles of Alexandria. Whilst browsing through loads of coins from a dealer I saw a portrait that I thought was quite striking. It comes from the first issue of folles and is dated to A.D. 294 before the eagle issue which includes the coinage of Domitius Domitianus which is dated to c. A.D. 296. This first issue is identified by the curved, parallel wreath ties rather than the divergent wreath ties that appear after this issue.

    Follis
    Obv:– GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS NOB CAES, Laureate head right (parallel ties)
    Rev:– GENIO POPV-L-I ROMANI, Genius standing left holding patera
    Minted in Alexandria (_ | B // ALE). A.D. 294
    Reference:– RIC VI Alexandria 15b

    9.52 gms. 25.32 mm. 0 degrees.

    I think that the endience of the engraver's marks inside the letters etc. indicate that this coin was made quite early in the life of the die. Some residual silvering.

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Very nice, I like the surfaces.

    My Alexandrian.

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    Galerius (305 - 311 A.D.)
    Egypt, Alexandria
    Potin Tetradrachm
    O: GAL MAXIMIANOC K; Laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    R: Nike advancing right, holding wreath and palm. L - Γ across fields.
    Alexandria mint, AD 294/295
    22mm
    8.15g
    Emmett 4230(3)a, Dattari 6150

    Scarce

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  4. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    I understand the attraction! And that is a fantastic example. I've noticed Galerius is a bit tougher to get than the others.

    Here's the issue under Domitianus:
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  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    That's a lovely looking example of the eagle issue which is always sought after.
     
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  6. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    maridvnvm, Here is my only example of a follis from Alexandria. AD 305-307.
    Alexandria follis, Gal..jpg Alexandria follis, Gal. (3).jpg Alexandria follis, Gal. rev (3).jpg
     
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  7. randygeki

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  8. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    My first coin of 2019. Notice something odd about this one?

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    Last edited: Jan 16, 2019
  9. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    The reverse legend looks blundered o_O.
     
  10. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    That can be attributed to a double strike. There's another interesting error in the obverse legend. The engraver added an extra 'A' between the 'F' and the 'L' for 'FL'.
     
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  11. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Nice catch :p! The poor fellow who did the die work must have been hired from a Temp Agency :shame:.
     
  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Interesting error and OP coins.
     
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  13. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    What a good find and a classic portrait of Constantius too..
     
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  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have been envisaging the engraver having just completed GAL VAL...... and starting this one and starts with the F and then gets distracted and comes back and finishes off ...AL VAL and then catches focus again and hopes nobody notices. Until now...
     
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I can see how the name Flavius Valerius Constantius could be hard to remember especially if the cutter was Latin as a second language. It is an interesting coin. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  16. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking it is more likely to be of the earliest issues of Folles from Alexandria (294 A.D.?), which is RIC VI Alexandria 15a, because of the engraver error, meaning maybe it was struck during the engraver's learning curve. The other possibility is RIC VI Alexandria 27a, which is thought to be from around 297 A.D. I'm not sure which one it is.
     
  17. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    The divergent wreath ties are apparently the clue.
     
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  18. Gavin Richardson

    Gavin Richardson Well-Known Member

    I thought the dimpled beard looked unusual. Maybe I just haven’t seen enough of these.
     
  19. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    There's a thread where the beard curls are talked about: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/which-tetrarch.328161/

    @maridvnvm: I notice you posted the following coin in that thread. It seems to also be a "FAL" engravor error, and the obverse seems very similar to mine. Die match?

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  20. Caesar_Augustus

    Caesar_Augustus Well-Known Member

    Definitely an obverse die match:
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  21. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    And a coin I had forgotten I had. It is one that didn't survive one of my enforced coin purges a few years back.... Ho hum.
     
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