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<p>[QUOTE=&quot;NPCoin, post: 188436, member: 5629&quot;]Actually, I would have to disagree on this issue.&nbsp; When filing your suit, you would make your complaint claims in the initial complaint.&nbsp; As long as the subject of the Grading Standard is not used, and only the issue of fraud with regards to SGS as a &quot;third party&quot; grader, as well as non-disclosure of business association between the claimed manufacturer and the distributor, then the Grading Standard (and thus subjectivity of grading) would be non-material to the suit.</p><p><br /></p><p>The problem here is not the grades assigned to the coins so much as it is the non-disclosed first party relationship between Aboncom and SGS, whereas Aboncom claims third party manufacturer/distributor relationship with SGS, while evidence points to the two entities being first party and one subsidiary to the other.&nbsp; This constitutes fraud.</p><p><br /></p><p>However, in order to make a civil claim, I believe you would have had to had sustained some substantial financial loss in order to do so.&nbsp; Otherwise, it is completely up to the government to make a move to indict on criminal fraud charges.&nbsp; But, in order to do so, they would need multiple substantiated claims made against SGS/Aboncom, which nobody seems to want to do.&nbsp; The U.S. Federal Trade Commission and the Attorney Generals of each State and the U.S. are there for a purpose.&nbsp; People simply need to start utilizing them if we ever want to see something done about SGS and others.&nbsp; And it needs to be done purely on the basis of fraud and not Grading Standards.</p><p><br /></p><p>It is the individual responsibility of the collector to learn about the hobby, and this includes grading.&nbsp; There are many forums and site resources on the web readily available to collectors just like this one, and people need to simply utilize those resources properly.&nbsp; The unfortunate thing about it is when you have companies such as eBay who, in all appearances, are protecting these companies through censorship.</p><p><br /></p><p>We can gripe and complain all we want and it will do little good unless we are griping and complaining to the proper authorities as well.&nbsp; Allegations and complaints made <b>completely</b> on facts are what build legal cases.&nbsp; Submit your facts to the proper channels and eventually something will get done.[/QUOTE]</p><p><br /></p>

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